Something I needed to get off my chest

[Shaun_C]

Re: Something I needed to get off my chest

Bro really, lol...to make a blatant comment like that shows that you don't have much experience with women.

See you're missing it too.I CLEARLY said it was MY personal opinion based on MY personal experience.And afterwards I never argued hence making that WHOLE debacle unneeded.

And BTW I'm not that young,I'm 28.And please don't assume that because my opinion doesn't mesh with your's that it means I don't know anything. Makes me feel like my opinion's worthless

[Fit2bLarge]

Re: Something I needed to get off my chest

You opinions and point are noted and taken. I'll say this, Yes - there is a subset of women that use PMS as a 'get out of jail free card'. I think your stereotyping of the subject is what got you in trouble. When you say 'women', that implys all woman, which is not the case. It is your opinion, but you will find a common trait on this topic, most will not agree with you. And that's fine. You know what they say, opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one!

[mick-G]

Re: Something I needed to get off my chest

See you're missing it too.I CLEARLY said it was MY personal opinion based on MY personal experience.And afterwards I never argued hence making that WHOLE debacle unneeded.

And BTW I'm not that young,I'm 28.And please don't assume that because my opinion doesn't mesh with your's that it means I don't know anything. Makes me feel like my opinion's worthless

Bro..Iam not missing anything here. If you are posting up your opinions, better get ready for some of other ppls. You are making some pretty false statements here and i think most women would find insulting. Your the one who brought this thread from another board here... and for what may i ask?? I could ask, what age women are you finding this prob with and based on how many women you have met, but that is not my buz, nor do i care. Only women i can think of that would use a tactic like this is young and immature women, that are looking for some attention. When you get "older" you are still young imo, and find some matture women who have pms and mood swings, then i will think you will have a change in opinion.

[Shaun_C]

Re: Something I needed to get off my chest

You opinions and point are noted and taken. I'll say this, Yes - there is a subset of woman that use PMS as a 'get out of jail free card'. I think your stereotyping of the subject is what got you in trouble. When you say 'women', that implys all woman, which is not the case. It is your opinion, but you will find a common trait on this topic, most will not agree with you. And that's fine. You know what they say, opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one!

Thanks for getting what my original point was.Only 1 replier in that original thread saw the point too.

And even though others on that board think otherwise.I don't care if they don't agree.Hell I don't agree with a lot some of them say.But that's what discussion is

HOWEVER I don't insult them because if it.See I don't lose my manners simply because I'm behind a computer screen.When I post I post like I'm having an actual conversation.As such I never swear or insult.

And I find that calling someone a know-it-all is simply a way to devalue that person's opinion

[T-Man007]

Re: Something I needed to get off my chest

Look, I can tell you from being married for 6 years that if you took that apporach to discredit 'my' wifes hormones or feelings I would have jumped on you too! But I realize, after 34 years of life, that not all women are affected by PMS the same. But the fact is, and it's a clinical fact, that PMS does in deed change a womans hormone levels and for a man to discredit that in any way is stepping into something he knows nothing about. Unless you are a woman and can speak from personal experience, you shouldn't make comments of such a nature. IMO.

Second, you compared a womans hormones to beign drunk! Bad move on your part in my opinion. It's as if you are saying a woman has comtrol over her hormones during these times. They don't, trust me on this. Hormones are the result of things going on in the body, not something you can just turn on or off. It's not like a woman can just avoid hormone changes like someone can avoid drinking too much. It just doesn't work that way.

Now, had you said something like "I think some woman use the PMS card like some people use the race card" I could agree with that. I could agree with someone using something they have no control over to their advantage, but not comparing it to being drunk.

And to say "Hormones or not she still has reasoning/decision making power" really shows me your lack of experience with women. Sorry bro, but unless you've been with a woman while she's pregnant, you have no idea what changes in hormones can do. And your comment makes it sould like she does, which is wrong. Yes, there are some women who aren't as affected by hormone changes as others, but to discredit all women is just ignorant. Now, don't get all pissy on my here and hear me out. I'm not calling 'you' ignorant, I'm calling your opinion of womens reactions to hormone changes ignorant because you obviously have no experiences with it. For instance, if I were to say 'all muslims are terrorists' then that would be an ignorant statement. If anyone were to say 'all muslims are terrorist' would just show their lack of knowledge in that area, and that's all ignorance is, it's a lack of knowledge. I'm ignorant when it comes to many things, because I have no experience or knowledge in those areas.

Sorry, but I can't defend you on this one because I can vouche 100% for what hormone changes have done to my wife and other women I've dated in my life. Not to mention what they did to my mom too.

[Shaun_C]

Even if you don't agree with my opinion (which is fine)

The point I'm trying to make HERE is that just because you don't agree doesn't mean you need to attack and verally berate someone just because you don't agree

[T-Man007]

Re: Something I needed to get off my chest

See you're missing it too.I CLEARLY said it was MY personal opinion based on MY personal experience.And afterwards I never argued hence making that WHOLE debacle unneeded.

And BTW I'm not that young,I'm 28.And please don't assume that because my opinion doesn't mesh with your's that it means I don't know anything. Makes me feel like my opinion's worthless

No, what you CLEARLY said was that hormones are the same as being drunk. You right them off as if a woman can just say 'no' to her hormones like she can a drink and it just doesn't work that way.

The reason for the debacle is because your comment, wether you meant to or not, offended men who's wives have suffered from their hormones.

There is difference between opinion and discreditied something. You took a womens hormones and lowered them down to an excuse and related it to being drunk. That's not an opinion, it's a comparison based on lack of experience with women.

I'm telling you, I used to think the same thing as you do, until I got married. And let me tell you why. Women don't let their *****y side out during PMS when you are dating, they keep it covered up, for obvious reasons. It's not until you get married and you are around each other 24/7 that things really come out.

[Fit2bLarge]

Re: Something I needed to get off my chest

I'm telling you, I used to think the same thing as you do, until I got married. And let me tell you why. Women don't let their *****y side out during PMS when you are dating, they keep it covered up, for obvious reasons. It's not until you get married and you are around each other 24/7 that things really come out.

AMEN my brotha!

[Shaun_C]

Thank you

You guys don't realize it but you proved my point.

See some of you don't agree with me and stated so.YET you didn't stoop to flaming me like they did.

Be honest if someone didn't agree with your opinion.Would you prefer they expressed it like you did to me.Or like how they did with the insults and whatnot.

I actually read everything you guys have said.And it's possible that because I'm NOT married or haven't hung around 1 women specificly that I don't see it that way.So I've got something to think about.

So for that I thank you

[mick-G]

Re: Something I needed to get off my chest

I think the main thing here Shaun, is that you see more views than just one. Some women have little pms and then their are others that it greatly effects. Yes, there are some women that will use it as an excuse, but if they are mature, you will know it is a joke, but if a woman is using it as a "game card", id have to say that she is immature or wanting attention. It may take a yr or more dating to find out if a woman you are with has it bad and how she shows it, but it is def real, lol! I know you are not a kid, and 28 should be old enough to have some experience with it, but if you have not dated or been living with, or married to a woman for at least a yr or closely dating, chances are the woman prob hides it. You will find out someday, lol!

[Shaun_C]

Thank you Mick-G

I think the main thing here Shaun, is that you see more views than just one. Some women have little pms and then their are others that it greatly effects. Yes, there are some women that will use it as an excuse, but if they are mature, you will know it is a joke, but if a woman is using it as a "game card", id have to say that she is immature or wanting attention. It may take a yr or more dating to find out if a woman you are with has it bad and how she shows it, but it is def real, lol! I know you are not a kid, and 28 should be old enough to have some experience with it, but if you have not dated or been living with, or married to a woman for at least a yr or closely dating, chances are the woman prob hides it. You will find out someday, lol!

I thank you for the way you posted that.

I don't know what it is with me but these days either online or in real life.My opinions are never excepted as just an opinion.And people get EXTREMELY pissy (like in the case of that thread) and go off at the mouth.And the reason's always the same "I don't like what you said"

But see you guys showed that just because someone doesn't share your opinion is no excuse for poor manner.You guys gave open honest thoughts to what I said.And even explained where I might be wrong WHILE also accepting that I was just stating an opinion

[T-Man007]

Re: Thank you

You guys don't realize it but you proved my point.

See some of you don't agree with me and stated so.YET you didn't stoop to flaming me like they did.

Be honest if someone didn't agree with your opinion.Would you prefer they expressed it like you did to me.Or like how they did with the insults and whatnot.

I actually read everything you guys have said.And it's possible that because I'm NOT married or haven't hung around 1 women specificly that I don't see it that way.So I've got something to think about.

So for that I thank you

Well of course we would rather be let down easy. No one likes to be flamed. I don't know that I would call what they did flaming but I won't discredit how it made you feel. If you feel offended then you were offended. Period. It sucks you had to feel that way.

[T-Man007]

Re: Thank you Mick-G

I thank you for the way you posted that.

I don't know what it is with me but these days either online or in real life.My opinions are never excepted as just an opinion.And people get EXTREMELY pissy (like in the case of that thread) and go off at the mouth.And the reason's always the same "I don't like what you said"

But see you guys showed that just because someone doesn't share your opinion is no excuse for poor manner.You guys gave open honest thoughts to what I said.And even explained where I might be wrong WHILE also accepting that I was just stating an opinion

I've learned the hard way to express things by saying 'in my experiences' or 'from what I've seen' or 'the people I've known...', something to make sure I express that I'm only talking about be and what I've seen. You know what I'm saying? It's real easy when someone says it the way you did to say 'hey, that's BS.....' But, when you start off by saying 'well, the based on the girls I've dated, I think....'. You just can't argue with that. At least, I wouldn't. Anyways, just something to think about if you are going to continue to post over there. That way, they know you are only talking about you and your experiences and it won't be as easy to take personally. Or, just hang out here! LOL

[Shaun_C]

Re: Thank you Mick-G

I've learned the hard way to express things by saying 'in my experiences' or 'from what I've seen' or 'the people I've known...', something to make sure I express that I'm only talking about be and what I've seen. You know what I'm saying? It's real easy when someone says it the way you did to say 'hey, that's BS.....' But, when you start off by saying 'well, the based on the girls I've dated, I think....'. You just can't argue with that. At least, I wouldn't

Exactly the reason why I said this

Did I say something wrong?

I don't believe I said anything insulting

And Elvin who responded the first time to my post AT LEAST understood where I was coming from.And took it in the spirit it was expressed.So I don't know what I said that was so bad

It's just that in my personal experience,none of the women I've ever hung with had their "*****" moments unless they were provoked in some way.Otherwise they were pleasant

I stated just that (you must've missed it) but unfortuneately of the people that responded to me.Tricky Disco and the Forum Admin have a serious axe to grind with me.And both have made it obvious that they'd rather hold on to that hate.

I said "My personal experience" to avoid this.But they chose to ignore that part and go for my jugular.So I guess they're not like you,so they decided to argue.I think they only read part of my post without paying attention to the most important part which is 'It was based on my personal experience"

I'm not going to let 2 or 3 people run me off though as I've got just as much right to post there.And since I'm not breaking the forum rules,if they don't like what I post they can just not respond.After all if you can't respond respectfully why respond at all

[Shaun_C]

And people are STILL taking shots at me

Another forum admin just posted this

Shaun you are not making any friends here either. we have Mods and don't need posers

I don't see why that was necessary.Here I am just trying to forget about it and move on.And here he is dreging it up again to give his 2 cents worth.

Not even a pm to ask MY perspective on the situation.But then again the Admin and Admin #2 are good friends.And Admin #2 barely knows me,so I guess he will be biased.

Well I'm not biting the hook,I CLEARLY posted I was posting from my personal experience.And I resent being called a poser,this is just ganging up on me pure and simple