Freemasons

[angryoldman]

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i dont beleive in the supposed rituals really, but there is no denying some of the causes the masons have supported..im assuming your not one of the elite members of this group so there may be some things you dont know..im sure for the average member its beneficial and a great group to be a part of, im not questioning that - what i do question is the eliteists of the group and their motives..for example a person could be a part of our government such as a police officer or even a senator.. but they may have no idea of the shady things the head of our government is apart of.. so they support it and call b.s on any speculation of foul play

im not saying its fact because its in writing, ill post some (100s if you want) articles about what the masons have supported through out history..anyway how do you even know its not true if you don't even know the elite "leaders" of the group?

First, who are the "Elite Leaders" of the group? We don't have a corporate office somewhere in California where guys like Kenneth Lay and John DeLorean sit in their high rise office overlooking Beverly Hills. Each state has their "Grand Master", which is the leader of the entire state. The grand Master is an elected person, who was a member of one of the local lodges in his state. Now, quite possibly back in the 1800's, the Masons were different. I do hear stories about some of them Southern boys back in the earlier days LOVING their masonic fraternity. So bad, that if someone were to speak out about it, that person would never be seen or heard from again. AGAIN, this is early days. A lot of the masonic rituals are very unknown and misunderstood to non members. I've seen a lot of writings about the masons. Heck, anything you need is only a "Google" away. But let me tell you Solid, Like I said before, I've been a member for 11 years. And in that 11 years, I've been and seen a lot of things. But nothing has led me to belive that we are a secret society who funds different high risk or shady activities.
Heck, I remember reading stories about the Muscular Dystrophy association, and what little money gets actually donated to the cure. I think it's like for every $1 donated, only .22 cents actually goes to the association. The other .78 cents gets pocketed by the corporation. You want to talk about a shady organization!

[supasaiyan99]

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We support no satanic rituals. We don't support raping and pillaging villages. We don't support cutting chickens heads off and smearing blood on ourselves.

I've met former masons from lodges in Europe and the Caribbean who have come to church to testify about the "evil" things they did as part of the masons and they always mentioned bloody rituals and rapings. I'm not sure how truthful those testimonies are though? I think these guys were high ranked members as well.

Is there a special way that a masons sits, that lets another mason know he is a msaon?

[angryoldman]

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I've met former masons from lodges in Europe and the Caribbean who have come to church to testify about the "evil" things they did as part of the masons and they always mentioned bloody rituals and rapings. I'm not sure how truthful those testimonies are though? I think these guys were high ranked members as well.

Is there a special way that a masons sits, that lets another mason know he is a msaon?

LOL! OK, this is a new one!
First, I have no idea what the Caribbean masons or the European Masons do, but I'm pretty sure these guys were pulling legs. Masons are amasons, no matter where you go in the world. They may hold their lodge meetings a little different, but I can assure you, no bloody evil things are ever done in any masonic lodge. No rapings, no satanic rituals, nothing. Heck, we can't even have Alcohol anywhere near or in the lodge.
And again, I can assure you, if there were 10 guys sitting in front of me, and only 1 was a mason, I wouldn't have any idea which one of them was a mason by the way they were sitting! We have no secret sitting rituals or signs that let me know who is a mason. We usually wear a ring, or a bumper sticker, or a lapel pin of some sort to let each other know we're masons.

[supasaiyan99]

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LOL! OK, this is a new one!
First, I have no idea what the Caribbean masons or the European Masons do, but I'm pretty sure these guys were pulling legs. Masons are amasons, no matter where you go in the world. They may hold their lodge meetings a little different, but I can assure you, no bloody evil things are ever done in any masonic lodge. No rapings, no satanic rituals, nothing. Heck, we can't even have Alcohol anywhere near or in the lodge.
And again, I can assure you, if there were 10 guys sitting in front of me, and only 1 was a mason, I wouldn't have any idea which one of them was a mason by the way they were sitting! We have no secret sitting rituals or signs that let me know who is a mason. We usually wear a ring, or a bumper sticker, or a lapel pin of some sort to let each other know we're masons.

Hmmm...I guess different sites do different things. One guy said it was necassary to bring Rum to a meeting. He said instead of feeding his family he would take the money and buy the best rum before going to a meeting. So no secret sitting stance? No bloody naked lashings? Well AOM, don't go to the caribbean or Europe to join a lodge!!! lol!!!

[angryoldman]

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Hmmm...I guess different sites do different things. One guy said it was necassary to bring Rum to a meeting. He said instead of feeding his family he would take the money and buy the best rum before going to a meeting. So no secret sitting stance? No bloody naked lashings? Well AOM, don't go to the caribbean or Europe to join a lodge!!! lol!!!

I still think they might have been pulling someones leg. See, Masons have heard so many different stories about being weird secretive people, that some actually do make up stories. I remember when I was first getting into the lodge, guys would talk about "Don't wear nice clothes to your first night. We wouldn't want to get the motor oil all over them". Different stuff like that.

[supasaiyan99]

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I still think they might have been pulling someones leg. See, Masons have heard so many different stories about being weird secretive people, that some actually do make up stories. I remember when I was first getting into the lodge, guys would talk about "Don't wear nice clothes to your first night. We wouldn't want to get the motor oil all over them". Different stuff like that.

Yeah it could all be bull! Although I've heard it from 3 different guys at 2 different Churches from 3 different countries (2 Caribbean countries and 1 European country).

[kite]

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AOM does ass rapings and blood bathing on his own time, not as part of the Masons. He's just twisted like that. Angry, you're giving the group a bad name man, you should prolly also stop running for president on the platform of puppy sacrifices, drunken orgies and world dominance through chemical dependancy. Just a thought.

[solidground]

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look up bohemian grove..im not sure if this involves masons too but it does involve many of our world leaders, it just passed last week i believe

[angryoldman]

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look up bohemian grove..im not sure if this involves masons too but it does involve many of our world leaders, it just passed last week i believe

Um, no. It doesn't invlove Masons. But I did read an interesting quote on Bohemian Grove:
In the Franklin Coverup Scandal of 1989, Paul A. Bonacci claimed that he had been kidnapped and flown to the Grove by Republican leader Lawrence King and was forced into sexual acts with other boys. In a later lawsuit claiming that Paul Bonacci was the subject of mind control experiments, Bonacci testified to these and other charges in court with U.S. Senior District Judge Warren K. Urbom presiding. Bonacci was awarded $1 million by Judge Urbom in a default judgement, but the judge did not find that the allegations were true.[3] A grandjury investigated the claims in the Franklin Coverup Scandal. On July 23, 1990, after hearing many hours of testimony, the grand jury threw out all of the allegations concerning sexual abuse, labeling the charges a "carefully crafted hoax".
Any time I see an article where someone claims "mind control experiments", all I can picture i some guy making these claims while smoking a bong and hitting blotter acid. Maybe a needle sticking out of his/her arm or something. Mind control experiments? Come on! Are we going to read soon that George Bush is really from planet Zithroid, and eats babies and feces? And someone has video proof!!

[pigmeat]

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this shit is so funny,lol! You guys will believe anything,lol....When i lived in the east people would argue with me that mormons had tails, and many wifes, and all kinds of crazy shit...because there brothers wifes, cousins, neighbor knew a guy, who knew a lady , who testified at church that they were kidnapped by mormons, and these things were indead true.......I have lived 20 + years in Utah were damn near everybody is mormon, and Know it is all bullshit, but it is fun to hear the things that people "know',lol BTW, I am not mormon,lol!

[badasz32]

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being in a fraternity is about caring for a cause, and its a bond of brotherhood. those on the outside will never, ever understand it. im in a social fraternity at school. im a Lamba Chi Alpha. and yes we party and do wild shit, but we do charity and cumminty works. people all sorts of shit about our rituals and ceremony. But unless ur in u can only speculate and make shit up.

i hear ya bro. so much shit is here say and what people on the outside say about the frat. the people on the in would only say good things.

[solidground]

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^ not too many people would be a part of something they felt was wrong..im sure most ****s felt they were doing the right thing too, doesnt mean they were right..(bad comparison, just making a point)

the thing is the masons go back hundreds and hundreds of years, its not like all the stories are just made up by some idiot and spread. this is a group with tons of money and with money comes political power and power to influence major events in the world..i never said the group was a completely bad thing. if i am correct many of the masons throughout history are some of the richer people in the world and control big corporations- corporations rule the world- not governments

I hope your not taking offense to this as i know your pasionate about your group,..but can you honestly say you know everything the organization is about and influences?

[solidground]

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Um, no. It doesn't invlove Masons. But I did read an interesting quote on Bohemian Grove:
In the Franklin Coverup Scandal of 1989, Paul A. Bonacci claimed that he had been kidnapped and flown to the Grove by Republican leader Lawrence King and was forced into sexual acts with other boys. In a later lawsuit claiming that Paul Bonacci was the subject of mind control experiments, Bonacci testified to these and other charges in court with U.S. Senior District Judge Warren K. Urbom presiding. Bonacci was awarded $1 million by Judge Urbom in a default judgement, but the judge did not find that the allegations were true.[3] A grandjury investigated the claims in the Franklin Coverup Scandal. On July 23, 1990, after hearing many hours of testimony, the grand jury threw out all of the allegations concerning sexual abuse, labeling the charges a "carefully crafted hoax".
Any time I see an article where someone claims "mind control experiments", all I can picture i some guy making these claims while smoking a bong and hitting blotter acid. Maybe a needle sticking out of his/her arm or something. Mind control experiments? Come on! Are we going to read soon that George Bush is really from planet Zithroid, and eats babies and feces? And someone has video proof!!

haha i never head about that, but the grove does in fact exist as a gathering place in san fran for global elite..im not claming to know what goes on there

[daved150]

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this shit is so funny,lol! You guys will believe anything,lol....When i lived in the east people would argue with me that mormons had tails, and many wifes, and all kinds of crazy shit...because there brothers wifes, cousins, neighbor knew a guy, who knew a lady , who testified at church that they were kidnapped by mormons, and these things were indead true.......I have lived 20 + years in Utah were damn near everybody is mormon, and Know it is all bullshit, but it is fun to hear the things that people "know',lol BTW, I am not mormon,lol!

lol..i agree. people will bull$hit, and i'll be damned if someone else dont swear to it!

[angryoldman]

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haha i never head about that, but the grove does in fact exist as a gathering place in san fran for global elite..im not claming to know what goes on there

Absolutely. I do agree the Grove exists. But honestly, and answer this HONESTLY!! Do you think maybe, just maybe, some guys who grew up in a poor to lower class family hear about this Grove. And they find out it's an exclusive club. Only rich people get in. And these poor to lower class kids say "Phuque these rich people! They have their own clubs! And they have this and they have that. You know, they probably phuque dead chickens at their stupid club. Yea, that's it! They phuque dead chickens! And.....um.....and....they.....um.....they perform homosexual acts on each other!! YEA!! That's what they do there!..." And these kids approach some newspaper that hates the rich and feels that corporate America rules the world, and so on.... So they take this story to the newspaper and they say "HEY! Over at the Grove, the phuque dead chickens and they perform homosexual acts. I saw it! I was standing outside and seen it with my own 2 eyes!" next thing, the newspaper is printing that President Bush is phuquing dead chickens at the Grove. Then, a whole web epidemic breaks out about George Bush phuquing dead chickens and performing homosexual acts at the Grove, since most of these papers and blogs feed off each other.
Do you think that's a slight possibility?