Anti-liberal US writer calls 9/11 widows "witches"

[DJDIGGLER]

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Look, even the other wives of 9/11 don't like what these women are doing. Period. That's what her point is and it's been cleary supported by the other widows. So, I don't see why sheshouldn't be allowed to say what she feels. That's what freedom of speech is. There's a lot of stuff YOU say about Christians, but that's your right. Would you want to be told you shouldn't say what you say because it offends someone? Because the stuff you say offends me sometimes and I don't think it's the right thing to do. So, what's the difference? One offensive spoken word is no different than another.

I'm not saying she doesn't have the right to say those things. I'm saying it isn't the right thing to say. Regardless of what my beliefs may or may not be I would never have the audacity to tell someone they are "enjoying their loved ones deaths!" I am a hardcore believer in freedom of speech. That's why you'll notice my posts never said she shouldn't have the right to say that, because she does have the right to say that. Are you honestly telling me if someone disagreed with your beliefs and said you enjoy your loved ones deaths that you wouldn't want to annihilate that person?? I know you would! You seem to be very passionate in your beliefs and that you would be quick to defend your loved ones! Put yourself in those womans shoes for a second and imagine how they felt when they heard those words!

[DJDIGGLER]

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Coulter is known for a combative column after September 11 saying: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." In one book, she wrote: "Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do."

That was why I said though shall not kill. The ***** has double standards. She acts like she's such a devout christian yet she talks about offing people in the name of god. Sounds a lot like islamic extremists if you ask me!

Then she has the audacity to say liberals hat America more than Islamic extremists do! That couldn't be farther from the truth! The only thing liberals hate is people forcing their damn religous beliefs into government. Religous beliefs have no place in government period! That would be infringing on the rights of the rest of americans that don't believe in those same beliefs.

[Gooseneck]

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She's a crazy *****, but I still like her. It's funny that the lefties can get away with saying all sorts of shit but when a righty does it it's hell to pay. Thing is she's said worse stuff than this before, just read any one of her books. I remember a couple of years back she said something about arming clergy or some such shit. She's nutty but so are Snickers and Snickers are good.

Thank You. She's no different than that retarded assed Michael Moore, just from the "right". Hell, he made movies while she gets smeared for the same bullshit propaganda. I'm not saying that I agree with her, but let her speak like the other warped-minded people.

[3Vandoo]

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Im sorry, the left or the right say stupid thing

but this so called lady, has a pea has a brain and even suggested that the US invade Canada because we were not supporting the war on Iraq.

Anyway, she will get shot one day

[DJDIGGLER]

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Thank You. She's no different than that retarded assed Michael Moore, just from the "right". Hell, he made movies while she gets smeared for the same bullshit propaganda. I'm not saying that I agree with her, but let her speak like the other warped-minded people.

I don't recall michael moore saying that people were enjoying thier loved ones deaths! Any other thing she says I have no argument with. But leave peoples f'n families out of it!

The only time michael moore dragged family into it was when he asked senators to sign up thier own kids to fight in the war. I see nothing wrong with that because they are quick to send other peoples kids but not their own. Bush the draft dodger is a prime example of that. But never did he mock or ridicule the deceased! He never pulled family into it that way, or said that the people would enjoy their family to die. She crossed the line and that's all there is to it. She didn't cross a legal line, she crossed a moral line that people just should not cross. Politics or no politics leave family out of it!

[Gooseneck]

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You contradict yourself by saying;

he asked senators to sign up thier own kids to fight in the war. I see nothing wrong with that because they are quick to send other peoples kids but not their own

but then you go on to say;

Politics or no politics leave family out of it!

Am I missing something here ??

[DJDIGGLER]

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Am I missing something here ??

Yeah the senators are sending peoples loved ones (aka..FAMILY) away without even so much as a thought of sending their own families. Why? of course because politicians all have double standards. Quick to watch others die and grieve over thier loss, but wouldn't even consider putting themselves through that same pain. I don't see michael moore saying "You'd enjoy your families death" like that woman did.

Let me ask you a question.... Are you honestly telling me that if you lost a loved one you wouldn't mind if someone said you enjoy that they died? If I lost my wife and someone said that to me I would probably rip their head right off their shoulders!

[superdog]

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I`m with diggler on this one. Michael Moore and this lady are in entirely separate leagues. She is just a person trying to become fameous by saying outragous things.

In fact in his last movie when he interviewed a mom who lost her son in Iraq he dealth with the subject very respectfully. Asking senators to send their own children to Iraq is kind of a "put your money where your mouth is" move.

[Atlas]

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The Bible also says 'If man sheds the blood of man, so shall his blood be shed by man'. Although, I really don't see what the 'thall shall not kill' quote has to do with anything.

Once again this is talking about murder. If someone murders another his punishment is death. Look at the context of the passage.

[Atlas]

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Yeah that's what they call having double standards. What a good idea lets follow a book that contradicts itself. If you want to start quoting bible lines maybe you should reliaze that the Ten Commandments are the 10 laws that god wanted us to follow. Regardless of what the rest of the book says those are his ten main rules. So are you saying you think it's ok to try to purposely find things in the book to make it so you can justify going against those rules?

no the bible says though shall not kill

The Bible doesn't contradict itself anywhere. People just take single lines out of context. And the fifth commandment is more specifically talking about murder. God gives power to governments to distribute justice, and as stated earlier if one man sheds the blood of another then his to shall be shed. For justice sake.

[Atlas]

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I`m with diggler on this one. Michael Moore and this lady are in entirely separate leagues. She is just a person trying to become fameous by saying outragous things.

In fact in his last movie when he interviewed a mom who lost her son in Iraq he dealth with the subject very respectfully. Asking senators to send their own children to Iraq is kind of a "put your money where your mouth is" move.

Nobody sends their own kids to war because it isn't the parents decision. These soldiers are individuals who make up their own minds. To ask someone whether or not they would send their own kids to war is stupid because almost everyone would go to war themselves to keep their kids safe and out of war.

[kite]

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Nobody sends their own kids to war because it isn't the parents decision. These soldiers are individuals who make up their own minds. To ask someone whether or not they would send their own kids to war is stupid because almost everyone would go to war themselves to keep their kids safe and out of war.

Damn, you beat me to it.

[Klash]

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Ann Coulter may come across harsh but she is making a good point.

What Ann Coulter is saying (I believe) is the "Jersey Girls" went through a tragedy and they took their husbands death to catapult their recognition, agenda and status. They did not get where they are because of merit or democracy but because of their tragedy and if they want to play in the political arena it should be pointed out, their standing on their dead husbands. You cannot ignore it and Ann Coulter has just pointed it out.

She is just identifying a polical tactic. If a victim allows a political party to use their situation to aggressively attack their opposition, the opposition should feel free to differentiate between the victim and the victims ideas.

She is not talking about all the 9/11 widows just the ones (the four "jersey girls") that used thier tragedy to catapult them into the polical arena. She is exposing how the democratic party used them (victims) as "human shields" to bash their polical opposition, then if the opposition responded, they simply imply: these women lost thier husbands on 9/11, don't you have any compassion?

That's why she calls them human shields. Anyone that attacks the "jersey girls" polical position - the democrats try to associate with attacking a widow.

[DJDIGGLER]

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Ann Coulter may come across harsh but she is making a good point.

What Ann Coulter is saying (I believe) is the "Jersey Girls" went through a tragedy and they took their husbands death to catapult their recognition, agenda and status. They did not get where they are because of merit or democracy but because of their tragedy and if they want to play in the political arena it should be pointed out, their standing on their dead husbands. You cannot ignore it and Ann Coulter has just pointed it out.

She is just identifying a polical tactic. If a victim allows a political party to use their situation to aggressively attack their opposition, the opposition should feel free to differentiate between the victim and the victims ideas.

She is not talking about all the 9/11 widows just the ones (the four "jersey girls") that used thier tragedy to catapult them into the polical arena. She is exposing how the democratic party used them (victims) as "human shields" to bash their polical opposition, then if the opposition responded, they simply imply: these women lost thier husbands on 9/11, don't you have any compassion?

That's why she calls them human shields. Anyone that attacks the "jersey girls" polical position - the democrats try to associate with attacking a widow.

So correct me if I'm wrong......to sum up what you said you are implying that it is wrong for someone to try to stand up politically because their loved one was killed? They are standing on their dead husbands heads because they want to bring change to the crappy policies that made it possible for the events to unfold to ultimately take the life of their soul mate and because of this that means they enjoy their death??

I'll tell you if I was in their shoes I would have tried to get as far politically as possible to put a stop to all of the crap that allowed those attacks. I would spend every waking minute scrutinizing the minutes that lead up to the attack. And why would I do it? Because I would do it out of love for my lost soul mate. Perfect example is BRAVEHEART with mel gibson. They kill his wife so he takes on a whole country for her. So your telling me that current society should see this type of passion and commitment as insulting to the ones they are fighting for?? Wow I guess this world is going to hell if that's the case!

[Klash]

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So correct me if I'm wrong......to sum up what you said you are implying that it is wrong for someone to try to stand up politically because their loved one was killed? They are standing on their dead husbands heads because they want to bring change to the crappy policies that made it possible for the events to unfold to ultimately take the life of their soul mate and because of this that means they enjoy their death??

No I don't think it is wrong for someone to stand up for certain legislation because a loved one was killed. But ask yourself why are all celebrity victims - extreme democrats. Were there only 4 widows created out of the 3,000 deaths on 9/11? Were those 4 widows the only ones with passionate political opinions? Or was it those 4 that allowed the democratic party and the media to expose their tragedy, to attack the administration and support Kerry and Edwards campaign?

I'll tell you if I was in their shoes I would have tried to get as far politically as possible to put a stop to all of the crap that allowed those attacks. I would spend every waking minute scrutinizing the minutes that lead up to the attack. And why would I do it? Because I would do it out of love for my lost soul mate. Perfect example is BRAVEHEART with mel gibson. They kill his wife so he takes on a whole country for her.

No! What I'm saying is you wouldn't have had the recoginition these women had because you aren't (as far as I can tell) irrational enough. These women pardon Clinton, ignore Islamic terrorist but hold the Bush administration responsible. They claim enough wasn't done on the morning of 9/11 to decrease the casualties - why don't they tell that to all widow's of the firemen that died. They are irrational and they get away with their comments because, no one wants to be associated with attacking a victim but Ann Coulter will and thank goodness.

So your telling me that current society should see this type of passion and commitment as insulting to the ones they are fighting for?? Wow I guess this world is going to hell if that's the case!

No they should see it for what it is, four women desiring to be used to support a anti-bush agenda on behalf of their dead husbands. I don't care for Bush but I really don't care for this "human shield" tactic (as Ann Coulter calls it).