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this is like the 10th time ive heard that hes died, this time its just out in the mainstream media..either way, ya cant argue its better off hes dead..i just wonder who the next guy they will put the "evil enemy" stamp on..its always necassary to have atleast one person to focus fear and hatred on.
Really, because he's been on the most wanted list until jsut the other day. I've never seen one claim of his death personally. At least, not on the news and not supported with photos and statements from the Iraqi government.
I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.
Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was found alive by Iraqi police and U.S. forces who arrived at the scene of the bombing raid near Baqouba, a U.S. official told FOX News on Friday.
"Zarqawi was alive when U.S. forces arrived on the site," Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said in a satellite interview from Iraq. "The Iraqi police arrived first, they found him in the rubble, put him on a gurney of some type."
Caldwell, the chief U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, said Zarqawi tried to roll off the gurney to escape once he became aware of the fact that he was being taken into custody by coalition troops Wednesday night after two 500-pound precision guided bombs blew up his safehouse near Baqouba.
U.S. forces immediately made a visual identification of Zarqawi but were unable to interrogate him because he died of his injuries "shortly after" being pulled from the rubble, Caldwell said.
Caldwell indicated that U.S. troops "went into the process to provide medical care to him" before he expired. He did not elaborate on the medical assistance.
The U.S. military earlier had displayed images of the battered face of Zarqawi and reported that he had been identified by fingerprints, tattoos and scars. Biological samples from his body also were delivered to an FBI crime laboratory in Virginia for DNA testing. The results were expected in three days.
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American, British, Iraqi and possibly Jordanian intelligence were all involved in tracking down the notorious terror mastermind based on tips from senior leaders in Zarqawi’s own network.
Information gathered from the bombing site led to 17 subsequent raids. An additional 39 raids were conducted overnight but not all of them were directly associated with intelligence gained from the bombing, Gen. Caldwell said.
"What we have been focusing on is the mid-level grade personnel in that organization," Caldwell said referring to Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Caldwell said it could be weeks before intelligence officials are able to fully analyze all the material and information obtained after the bombing but pointed out that it had already proved "extremely useful and beneficial."
Revising what military officials said Thursday, Caldwell said it now appears there was no child among those killed in the bombing. He cautioned that some facts were still being sorted out.
He said three women and three men, including Zarqawi, were killed.
killing him is a victory for iraqis; he is responsible for many civilian deaths. however his death will not bring the end to the insurgency. if anything it will inspire others to join.
killing him is a victory for iraqis; he is responsible for many civilian deaths. however his death will not bring the end to the insurgency. if anything it will inspire others to join.
On another note, he didn't give his life intentionally, he was killed. Their whole thing is if you die surving Alah you go to heaven. Well, was he serving Alah at the time he died? Who knows how they'll view it. I would imagine this makes some of the people think. Also, a buddy of mine who just got back from 12 months over there said the fee paid to those to will be suicide bombers has went up a hell of a lot. He said less and less people are joining the groups. It's only a matter of time before people start to see the big picture. Look how long the Crusades went on before they realized that winning a holy war never happens. These people wont be ignorant fools forever. Also, my buddy who just got back said that a very high percentage of the younger generation likes America and does not believe in what the elders are doing. If you notice, it's mostly old people in positions of power over there. Eventually the younger generation will have control and things will change.
I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.
^^^this is all assuming that the terrorist base is composed of and recruited from iraqis. the fact of the matter is that the majority of the insurgency is composed of middle easterners and arabs from countries other than iraq.
yes, the younger generation of iraqis (and the older for that matter) does want change for the most part, but the fundamentalist population of the middle east will always resist the west. there is no way around that.
no matter how great we think our way of life is, it is a mistake to assume that resisting it is ignorant. it may be futile in the end, but the folks who are carrying it out are well aware of this and welcome death in the name of jihad.
and whether or not he gave his life intentionally (not knowing that the bomb was coming at the time) is inconsequential. he lost his life fighting the jihad- this is all that matters to the insurgents.
Here is a briefing slide prepared for Army General George W. Casey Jr., the top U.S. commander in Iraq.
The slide appeared as an adjunct to the Washington Post's famous article from April 10, which described the psyop campaign to create a Zarqawi myth. Since that time, we have seen the emergence of a Zarqawi video of questioned authenticity, in which the oft-"killed" terrorist was seen conducting exercises in a landscape that resembled the American southwest.
Previously, I asked a question that remains unanswered: If, in fact, Zarqawi conducted these maneuvers (which included the firing of anti-tank weaponry in open desert beneath a clear sky) within the borders of Iraq, why didn't American spy satellites catch sight of him immediately? Google Earth has spotted firefights on Baghdad streets. Surely, American overseers must scrutinize Iraq from the sky carefully and routinely.
Shortly after this video hit the net, the American military released outtakes which showed that Z handled his weapon in an amateurish fashion. Everyone was so busy giggling that few thought to ask questions about the source of this convenient footage. Supposedly, American soldiers found it during a raid. Which raid? Why not humor us with a few details?
On second thought, don't bother. Any details provided by officaldom would never convince, since so many recent events have justified cynicism. The Casey slideshow confirmed what many had already suspected: Zarqawi existed solely because he fulfilled a propaganda function. Once that fact became known, it was necessary to bury the revelation. First came the video. When that ploy failed, Zarqawi lost his value as bogeyman and thus had to die.
Maybe we should put quotation marks around the word "die." Maybe those gruesome images of his corpse were photoshopped. Maybe they were real. Who can say? The only thing we can know for sure is that the scarecrow no longer performed its intended function and was thus subject to removal.
If you know classical music, you've probably heard Prokofiev's "Lieutenant Kije" suite, which originated as the score for a now-lost Russian film based on an old short story. (The same story inspired an early episode of MASH.) The Lieutenant was the fictional creation of a group of pankster soldiers who wanted to give their unit an heroic and inspiring figure. When the Tsar asked to meet this famed warrior, his "death" became mandatory.
The tale of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is simply the latest variant of the Lieutenant Kije legend.
I dont care about the details, if a person is ****ed up enough to cut off another human beings' head while they're still alive, than he/she should die.
^dont know if that post is directed towards me, but i completely agree that people who are that evil/dangerous do not deserve life.. i was just posting a different view of things, i beleive its important to read all perspectives.
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