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**LOCO** · 08-11-2005, 11:27 PM

Re: this is no lie!! i got a tear in my eye!!

dude quit that shit... it's pointless... ur just avoiding to deal with ur issues... eventually they'll add up so much not even alcohol is gonna help u... u got to stop, sober up, and deal with it all. one by one. take it slow and easy. ask ur gf to help u with it. she'll be willging to do it too once she sees ur putting some effort into it urself.....

**FUZO** · 08-12-2005, 12:07 AM

Re: this is no lie!! i got a tear in my eye!!

CALL ME BYRON I LEFT YOU A MESSAGE

**geesler** · 08-12-2005, 08:39 AM

Re: this is no lie!! i got a tear in my eye!!

Byron you know you got a great group of bros here who all have your back and are here for you to bounce anything off of! Youre a smart guy and Im sure you know what you gotta do- its just the doing it isnt easy at all. best I can suggest now is look for things to do that DONT involve dirnking! Theres plenty of things that are fun that dont really mix with drinking. On top of that just think of how much it damages all the hard work you put into your body! Also it shouldnt be hard at all to do what you have to / do your best to kep your girl I know she meeans a lot to you

**T-Man007** · 08-12-2005, 11:20 AM

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Bro, let me tell you a story. My dad committed suicide when I was 21. I was on my way up the white collar ladder. I had received a job with a nation wide trucking company and I was 5 years younger than the next youngest Operations Manager. I was set to be a Terminal Manager within 2 years with my choice of two terminals being built in Georgia. Well, to make a long story short, instead of seeking professional help or spiritual help I resorted to drinking on the weekends. Drinking lead to recreational drugs, which lead to the dimise of my job. Then it was down hill. I went from white collar living to bouncing in a bar. Then I sold "stuff" to make extra money. Well, eventually, I got myself in deep deep trouble (not related to the "stuff" but still BIG trouble). So, at that point I made change and went to work at a restaurant. I made it to Asst Manager within 3 months. Well, you remember the trouble I mentioned before? The punishment was 90 days in boot camp. That cost me my liquior license. No liquior lisence, no Manager job. County law.

Then, I went into the health club business for several years, which is the reason I ended up in Colorado. Now, I own my own Corporation, I'm starting another company and things are great. But, just but, how much sooner do you think I could have gotten to where I am now had I just taken the time to seek professional help or spritual help 12 years ago when all this happened. How much sooner? I'll never know, but I do know this. I can't vote, I can't own a gun, I can't even apply for some jobs because of the actions that resulted from drinking and partying.

Take the advice of someone who has survived the worst. You do not want to take that path. Of all the friends I went down that path with, me and one guy are the only ones that survived. Some died, some are in prison, some are addicts who haven't been heard from in years. MIA so to speak. Please bro, get help. Go to a preacher, a preist, a counseor, someone, just go bro. You have way to many good qualities to be wasted one night because you wrapped your truck around a telephone pole or even worse, you kill someone else.

There is no excape from reality. No matter how bad the opposition is you are better to fight and lose than to not fight at all. Don't put it off. This kind of stuff doesn't just go away, it haunts you until you deal with it. I know, I didn't get closure with my dad's suicide until I was in the damn boot camp. Dont wait until you are at rock bottom, do it now and start a new and better life for you and your girl bro. But do it for you, not her. You need to do what's best for Byron. You do that, and she'll be right by your side. You do it for her and it wont be genuine.

**O2BESOHUGE** · 08-12-2005, 11:27 AM

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BYRON REDIRECT ALL THAT NEGATIVE ENERGY INTO SOMETHING POSITIVE. YOU HAVE A BEUTIFUL GF THAT IS STICKING BY YOU. PUT YOUR ENERGY INTO YALLS RELATIONSHIP AND GET INTO THE GYM. KEEP YOUR CHIN UP BUDDY. PM ME AND CALL ME IF YOU NEED TO

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**Testify** · 08-12-2005, 11:38 AM

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Byron, you need to take care of yourself - and you can't wait. Quit drinking and get some help before you hurt the ones you love the most, and yourself. If you need to talk we are here for you, but you have to take control first.

**mick-G** · 08-12-2005, 12:46 PM

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ByRon, you have to be as open to your GF as you are to us. Tell her your problems and maybe do some soul searching and find out what is causing this prob with the drinking. You have to admit to yourself first that you have a prob and also admit this to the ppl you love. You are no less a man to fess up to your temptations. If you want to keep your gf you have to confide in her and make her a part of your life and not shut her out. Alot of times when this happens the spouse/gf/bf feels shut out and that they are not loved. You need to involve her and tell her how you feel. Maybe you need to find a clinic or hospital that deals with abuse problems. If you don't want to check yourself in, at least you need to take care of the issues that make you get to this point and the root causes of the alcohol abuse. Whether it is alcohol or other forms of drugs, you need help by a professional. Even seeing a qualified psycologist that has extensive experience in abuse will help, but you are not going to get anywhere if you do not take action and perhaps take your gf with you. I have been thru this, not personally but i have had someone close go thru abuse counseling so i know it takes time, but you have to admit to yourself you have a prob and take the steps to change it. Talking will help, but you are the only one that can make the change. If you ever want to talk, you have my #.

**daved150** · 08-12-2005, 01:20 PM

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BRO...LISTEN TO THESE GUYS...THEY'RE RIGHT..

**O2BESOHUGE** · 08-12-2005, 01:21 PM

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BYRON, THIS IS WHATS MEANT BY FAMILY...WE ARE ALL HERE FOR YOU!

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**T-Man007** · 08-12-2005, 03:54 PM

Re: this is no lie!! i got a tear in my eye!!

Originally posted by mick-G

ByRon, you have to be as open to your GF as you are to us. Tell her your problems and maybe do some soul searching and find out what is causing this prob with the drinking. You have to admit to yourself first that you have a prob and also admit this to the ppl you love. You are no less a man to fess up to your temptations. If you want to keep your gf you have to confide in her and make her a part of your life and not shut her out. Alot of times when this happens the spouse/gf/bf feels shut out and that they are not loved. You need to involve her and tell her how you feel. Maybe you need to find a clinic or hospital that deals with abuse problems. If you don't want to check yourself in, at least you need to take care of the issues that make you get to this point and the root causes of the alcohol abuse. Whether it is alcohol or other forms of drugs, you need help by a professional. Even seeing a qualified psycologist that has extensive experience in abuse will help, but you are not going to get anywhere if you do not take action and perhaps take your gf with you. I have been thru this, not personally but i have had someone close go thru abuse counseling so i know it takes time, but you have to admit to yourself you have a prob and take the steps to change it. Talking will help, but you are the only one that can make the change. If you ever want to talk, you have my #.

Byron, read this 20 times!!!!! This is great advice.

**ByRoN** · 08-12-2005, 06:09 PM

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thanks guys i am talking with the g/f about this tongiht and maybe getting some help cause when i drink i drink till i can't remeber things the next day and i know that thats a [problem i just have to try to fix it thanks again guys

**geesler** · 08-12-2005, 06:20 PM

Re: this is no lie!! i got a tear in my eye!!

Good to here bro! Let us know how things go!

**mick-G** · 08-12-2005, 07:20 PM

Re: this is no lie!! i got a tear in my eye!!

Originally posted by ByRoN

thanks guys i am talking with the g/f about this tongiht and maybe getting some help cause when i drink i drink till i can't remeber things

Sorry, no maybes here! Make an appoitment to either a treatment clinic or a qualified substance couselor today. If you are drinking like that you have a serious problem end of story. Like i said you have to be the one to make the change. This is nothing to blow off. If you have to, tell your gf that your going to make an appointment and make the appointment while she is there so she can verify it, and make sure she makes you follow thru on it. You need a kick in the ass, bro, so get off that ass and start....now! Look in the phone book and make some calls to some hospitals so you can find the best facility, or go to bcbs.com in your state. You might be able to find a substance facility in your area there.

**Blackfoot** · 08-13-2005, 03:48 AM

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Here's something to think about:

Every bad decision or event in my life, alcohol has been the one constant variable. I think this can be said for most people. Once you realize this, things get better because you'll learn to omit the alcohol and the bad decisions/events amazingly become fewer and fewer.

Best of luck to you man.

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