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I do believe he has psychological issues due to his early childhood, but to call him a freak is just plain ignorance. If you don't know about his past or what caused him to be this way don't make blanket statements just to be derogatory. I do believe that if he doesn't get help he'll prob have children over again, and this will continue to happen. He just doesn't understand that it isn't a behavior that society accepts.
MICK-G, i respect your opinions very much, and i agree with you most of the time, but in this case you either have a knowledge of mr jackson's mental health obtained through personal consultations with the guy...or, you've come to your opinions from information you've processed from media, pass interviews, ect. i have processed my opinion from much of these same avenue's, and have come to a diff. opinion than you...nothing more...nothing less...just differant
HE WHO MAKES A BEAST OF HIMSELF, GET'S RID OF THE PAIN OF BEING A MAN!!
MICK-G, i respect your opinions very much, and i agree with you most of the time, but in this case you either have a knowledge of mr jackson's mental health obtained through personal consultations with the guy...or, you've come to your opinions from information you've processed from media, pass interviews, ect. i have processed my opinion from much of these same avenue's, and have come to a diff. opinion than you...nothing more...nothing less...just differant
Actually i gain little info i believe from media, as they are always over dramatizing and speculating without proof. Ive read several books on him and i remember when he was much younger 8yrs old till now, so in that reguards i think i have a better take on him them ppl, say that are in their 20's and only know current issues involving him. Everyone has a right to their opinions though, and i can respect that.
Many books can be called "media" too because they are only speculation, Mick.
I think we all know he is guilty of acting inapporpriately and has probably molested children - but without evidence, they can't convict him. If you were in his shoes wouldn't you want evidence to convict you rather than just what people "think" you did?
I wish they would have had the appropriate facts to put him away.
Actually i gain little info i believe from media, as they are always over dramatizing and speculating without proof. Ive read several books on him and i remember when he was much younger 8yrs old till now, so in that reguards i think i have a better take on him them ppl, say that are in their 20's and only know current issues involving him. Everyone has a right to their opinions though, and i can respect that.
i agree that to know the younger mike j, may make an opinion more rounded. and while i'm certainly not as old as you (joking buddy, had to take the shot!!) i am 36 and do remember a younger jackson. but, i must admit, i was never a fan, and i did not follow him as deep as some. i believe most "fans" (fanatics) opinions are skewed also. i've read verious things, books, mag. interviews, specials my wife made me watch..lol, and that is where i formed my opinion. believe it or not...i had made comments to my wife YEARS ago, that i thought the "kid" thing was very suspicious...she called me a dork..lol...now look! just an opinion then, as is now.
HE WHO MAKES A BEAST OF HIMSELF, GET'S RID OF THE PAIN OF BEING A MAN!!
Well, maybe i need to clarify, lol! Yes, books also can be called "Media", actually its been along time ago since i read them, but i think at least one was a bio, with many interviews form family, friends, businesss associates, etc, but yes again this too can be speculative. One thing i do agree on is that what he did/does ( having children over spending the night) isn't in his best interest, financially or mentally, and its not what society believes is right, and if he continues this, it will totally ruin what he has left of, not only his fortune, but his reputation. He thinks he is doing nothing wrong in having children stay over because he has no concept of what the outside world (society) thinks or believes. He doesn't live in an environment like most of us, (going to work, paying bills, making ends meet), so it is hard for us to conceptualize what it is like to be him. There is "No" real evidence to prove him guilty, but then again there is neither to prove his innocence. Im just going by what i have seen and learned, as he has always loved children. From what i have read he was not only mentally abused by his father (his father actually had sex with groopies in the same room when he was younger, but so did his brothers), but he would force him to always be performing and practicing, so in that, he never had any friends or could do the things normal kids could do. Even the simple things like playing with other kids, going to parks, etc. or even having gf's. This father also always told him how ugly he looked by pointing out his faults. I believe that is why all the plastic surgeries to his face and why he never has had much, if any relationships. Now for a long time Michael lives in a reclusive world where he is the center of it, and has ppl doing what ever he wants. I don't even think he has the concept of what he has. It is just very sad to see an icon like this ruin himself.
i see your point...and it's a good one....i still say he's a freak...lol, kiddin bro. i wont except what he does sleeping with kids, even IF i didnt think he was doing something, it still aint right and, while i understand your points, i find it hard to believe he dont know right from wrong...no-one told him that its not appropriate to sleep with kids? he never flipped on a tv about HIM and seen, and heard from the people on it, that it was not appropriate? the kid he gave 23million to...well, that surley should've tipped him off. i still question the porno...i still question the alcahol...i still question the 45yr old man sleeping with the kids....and i have a hard time blowing it off to "oh, it's just micheal".
HE WHO MAKES A BEAST OF HIMSELF, GET'S RID OF THE PAIN OF BEING A MAN!!
I undersand your points, lol! It is unapproprate. I think if im not mistaken that he said that he doesn't literally sleep with them, but they are in the same room, and his bedroom isn't your typically bedroom it is more like the size of a standard house, lol! And yes, i don't understand, even if he doesn't have a motive or is harmless, you would think that he would at least take the advice from his advisors and friends. If this should happen again, like i think it prob will then i guess he has no one to blame but himself.
who cares if they slept in his bed.. my lil cousins sleep in my bed and my dogs sometimes do as well, and i dont molest or fuck either of them. He enjoys helping kids, some people are after his cheddar, it's that simple, imo...
oh btw, he is a freak and a weirdo but that doesnt mean you put him away for it.
I undersand your points, lol! It is unapproprate. I think if im not mistaken that he said that he doesn't literally sleep with them, but they are in the same room, and his bedroom isn't your typically bedroom it is more like the size of a standard house, lol! And yes, i don't understand, even if he doesn't have a motive or is harmless, you would think that he would at least take the advice from his advisors and friends. If this should happen again, like i think it prob will then i guess he has no one to blame but himself.
i'm affraid your right!! i think we'll be down this road again, my friend...see ya there!! lol
HE WHO MAKES A BEAST OF HIMSELF, GET'S RID OF THE PAIN OF BEING A MAN!!
i'm with you too mick... not a whole lot of evidence.
I'm not convinced the man is not a child molester. Too bad a family without a history of frivolous law suits and welfare fraud didn't go after him. Some evidence would have been nice too.
Good to see the justice system works... even if MJ is a total f#^$ up that should be put under the jail it's nice to see you still need evidence to convict someone of something in this country, and not just a media cirucs and a bunch right or left wing moron analists on Fox and CNN.
And on a final note... for my money thriller is still one of the best albums ever put out.
I run suicide drills over and over with the weight of the world on my shouders... I'm far from being god, but i work god damn hard.
Actually i think Fox and Court tv are the worst at making circuses and at making blanket statements without any evidence or prior knowledge of cases. This is why ppl make assumptions about ppl without facts. Michael, even though he, i admit is weird, strange whatever you want to call him is prob the most kindest, loving, and caring person to children there will ever be. If you have seen any interview with him or even heard his lawyer last night... anyone that has ever met him has said the same thing. He is a very, very kind, straight forward, caring person, and would never ever think of harming a child. If you put aside the way he looks and think about how he didn't have a childhood and the abuse he took when he was younger, you will understand why it is so important that he bring joy and happiness to children. I understand ppl saying derrogatory statements, but i think alot of it has to do with what they hear the media say that is totally false. I personally would stake my rep on this. The only prob Michael has is that he is too trusting and ppl take advantage of him because hes an easy target. I just hope he listens to his advisors and lawyer and be alot stricter in how he conducts his affairs.
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