No porn!!!!!

[T-Man007]

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Good man!

I don't think cipher was judging but was playing the odds. In general, if that happened to every guy on this board the majority would be like "how you doing?". I don't think he was doubting your loyaty as much as making the point of how men respond to such things. That's how I read it anyway. I may be wrong.

[edvedr]

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no your probably right. i take alot of pride in being that loyal so i'm probably being touchy

[BM]

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Here here! I have a lot of skeletons in my closet. The very fact that God sees me through Jesus and declares me righteous is just amazing. After all I did against him he still loves me beyond words. The very least I can do is make a stong effort to do his will. I'm not perfect but I repent whole heartedly when I do fail. I don't like to fail him but I'm human and I do. That's what makes him such a wonderful thing to have in your life. The friend who never judges you, the friend who never forsakes you, the friend who gave his only son to be a propitiation so that I may have etenal live. And the best part, it's all free. He does is all out of love, as long as you believe.He truly is the almighty.

Well said, beautiful statement!

[lxorl]

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when did this become a church circle ?

i look at porn all the time..... does that make me a bad person? does that mean that i can not go to heaven? I would like to think that my god doesnt give a shit about that.

[lxorl]

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lol... didnt realize i was in the religion fourm...


carry on!

when did this become a church circle ?

[Cipher]

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cipher point taken on everything else. but i take offense to the above statement. you said you don't judge and you just did. as i said i am EXTREMELY loyal. i said EXTREMELY for a reason. i've been in just about the most tempting of situations. i have had ex's beg me for ex sex. and ironically enough she did grab my junk. i have had a very hot girl.....in college....she had a boyfriend and told me she just wanted sex. she used to pass me notes in class tellin me what she wanted me to do to her. and in both these situations as well as others i said no with a smile. never even crossed my mine to make a different decision. and in both these situations i was not even married.

Your a far better man than I am. No disrespect meant at all. Most know im a stand up bro but thats a tough one and if you can honestly say that you would never even think about it. You are indeed a better man then I.

Ciph

[Cipher]

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when did this become a church circle ?

i look at porn all the time..... does that make me a bad person? does that mean that i can not go to heaven? I would like to think that my god doesnt give a shit about that.

No...it doesnt mean that you will not go to heaven. The path to heaven is straight and narrow. It is hard to get into heaven and thats not what God would want us doing with our time.

Im not judging since I used to have huge problems with porn and everyday is a struggle. Im a Network Engineer so im always on the computer so there is always that possiblity.

Ciph

[edvedr]

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Your a far better man than I am. No disrespect meant at all. Most know im a stand up bro but thats a tough one and if you can honestly say that you would never even think about it. You are indeed a better man then I.

Ciph

ahh noone is better than anyone. i know your a good guy. and what i mean by not thinking about is that i know i would never actually do it. i never thought oh maybe i can get away with it. its just something that i've always stuck to my guns about. but i am a man with test running through me. extreme amounts at times lol. so i am not denying that i did fantasize about those girls. i don't see the harm in that, i think its only natural. as a matter of fact i don't see how to even avoid those thoughts. but that might be cause i'm a pervert

[lxorl]

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sex is normal and part of life....if you just keep repressing it its only going to lead to other problems. i dont think porn is really a big deal... although if you spend hours upon hours then maybe its a little overboard. I also dont really look at XXX porn. I just like artistic nudes for the most part

not trying to be a dick cipher..... just giving my .02

No...it doesnt mean that you will not go to heaven. The path to heaven is straight and narrow. It is hard to get into heaven and thats not what God would want us doing with our time.

Im not judging since I used to have huge problems with porn and everyday is a struggle. Im a Network Engineer so im always on the computer so there is always that possiblity.

Ciph

[Cipher]

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sex is normal and part of life....if you just keep repressing it its only going to lead to other problems. i dont think porn is really a big deal... although if you spend hours upon hours then maybe its a little overboard. I also dont really look at XXX porn. I just like artistic nudes for the most part

not trying to be a dick cipher..... just giving my .02

This can be a complicated thing to debate so let me read some verses out of the bible and ill hit you back when I have some biblical facts.

[LilFella]

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First off, I love to look at porn. This is my biggest weakness in life. Just like Ciph brought out, I started to look at every frickin chick in the gym or mall with a nice body. I have increasingly gotten worse and worse about this. I blame this on my EXCESSIVE viewing of porn. I will go way out of my way to do this. For the past 6 months I have made a decision to not look at porn anymore because it just got out of hand. Especially on a test cycle!!! Anyways, i had to quit before I wind up banging some chick and losing my wife.

[PL456]

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This is amazing, really, that some do not think pornography is "that big of a deal".

You see, fellows, porn is a manifested desire for earthly plesaures, that is sex with no obligations..i.e. lust. desire for earthly pleasures equals communion with satan. a friend of the world is no friend of God. as Christians we are called to inhibit our earthly desires and look to God for pleasure and joy. if you are truly committed to becoming closer to God, you will work to repress these earthly desires...sexual immorality promoted by pornography, drunkeness, profane language; as when you continue committing these behaviors you are drifting away from God. remember, satan stalks like a tiger in the bushes looking to pounce on weak souls. we must be strong and resist. if youre having trouble containing yourself from looking at porn, by all means get a FILTER on your computer and ask your significant other to lock it without telling you the password. if he or she truly cares for you and your spiritual walk with Christ, they'll do it in a heartbeat.

these pictures are pictures of satan himself. satan takes all forms, even beautiful women spread out on your monitor. think of that the next time you check out that stuff. that is satan looking back at you on the screen, laughing at how foolish you are, and your Heavenly Father is shaking His head, worrying about you.

[mick-G]

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Well Put!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[edvedr]

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This is amazing, really, that some do not think pornography is "that big of a deal".

You see, fellows, porn is a manifested desire for earthly plesaures, that is sex with no obligations..i.e. lust. desire for earthly pleasures equals communion with satan. a friend of the world is no friend of God. as Christians we are called to inhibit our earthly desires and look to God for pleasure and joy. if you are truly committed to becoming closer to God, you will work to repress these earthly desires...sexual immorality promoted by pornography, drunkeness, profane language; as when you continue committing these behaviors you are drifting away from God. remember, satan stalks like a tiger in the bushes looking to pounce on weak souls. we must be strong and resist. if youre having trouble containing yourself from looking at porn, by all means get a FILTER on your computer and ask your significant other to lock it without telling you the password. if he or she truly cares for you and your spiritual walk with Christ, they'll do it in a heartbeat.

these pictures are pictures of satan himself. satan takes all forms, even beautiful women spread out on your monitor. think of that the next time you check out that stuff. that is satan looking back at you on the screen, laughing at how foolish you are, and your Heavenly Father is shaking His head, worrying about you.

i was hoping you were gonna answer this more clearly. i understand what the bible says. i want you to explain how you think it effects people in their everyday lives.

[PL456]

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well, in my post, I state that it separates you from God and makes reconciliation with God more difficult. This directly affects your everyday life. You start seeing the images flash into your mind, you become more lustful, the desire to look at the images becomes more pronounced. The images are the picture of sin. Sin draws you in and once youre in, it becomes a vicious cycle. You may lie to cover up your looking at porn from your family and friends, you may worry that your pornography may be discovered, you may be embarrassed if you are caught looking at the images, all these things affect you negatively. your morality is slowly eroded, clouding your reasoning. there is no redeeming value or goodness in pornography. God the Father only wants the BEST for you and GOODNESS for you. What goodness comes from pornography? I will refer you all to my post several weeks ago, where I asked if you believed in absolute right and wrong with no gray areas. this falls into the "wrong" category, guys. it separates us from God.

If you proclaim to be "born again", then you are saying you have put aside your earthly desires and are actively working to suppress them, and you are seeking to become Christ-like. if you claim to be "born again" and still sit there and type in "XXX pictures" or whatever on your browser to pull up these nasty websites, you my friend, are NOT born again. you are fooling yourself and yourself only.