i'm curious

[mick-G]

Re: i'm curious

I think Ryker77 is saying that a rapist and a child molester has an affliction, should they deny themselves of sexual pleasure for life? This doesn't make much sence to me cause a rapist or molester is causing harm to another human, where a homosexual is not. There are the legal ramifications also. In some states homosexual act are technically against the law if caught, but this is also true for hetrosexual conduct. Where as, if caught raping or molesting it is a crime and punishable by law. I do not condone homosexuality, but i think this correlation between homosexual and rapist/child molester is unfounded. Please elaborate Ryker77.

[edvedr]

Re: i'm curious

thats what i thought he was saying but he quoted kite as if he was disagreeing with her.

[Ryker77]

Re: i'm curious

Kite was saying the gay people have the right to sexual please. When people say that gays are born that way, I must say that is the same excuse that a serial rapist or child molester will give.

Homosexuality does cause harm. really? http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/graphics/images/L206/l206_8.gif
studies included one by Seattle child psychiatrist Dr. Thomas Roesler. In 60 interviews with young gay men in the early 1970s, Roesler found that 48 percent of them had sought psychiatric care and 31 percent had attempted suicide.

Gay men are six times more likely to attempt suicide than their straight counterparts and the numbers increase exponentially during the holidays. This story appears in the Dec/Jan 99 issue of Genre

http://www.times10.org/suic197.htm By the age of 20, gay/bisexual males have been about 20-times more likely to have attempted suicide than heterosexual males.





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NAMBLA's goal is to end the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships by:


# building understanding and support for such relationships;

# educating the general public on the benevolent nature of man/boy love;

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# supporting the liberation of persons of all ages from sexual prejudice and oppression.


Our membership is open to everyone sympathetic to man/boy love and personal freedom. SICK SICK SICK

[mick-G]

Re: i'm curious

so your position is that a gay person should deny themselves of sexual pleasure for life. am i correct?


Yes. Is this fair? No, but neither is being born with any other affliction.

I think Kite was saying they "Should" deny themselves. What im trying to say is that homosexuality is not a crime and there is no intent on harming someone else, not themselves, lol. So, in that respect i don't think that it is fair to compare a homosexual with a rapist or child molester. I understand the morality issue here, but you cant really compare these. Also the true homosexual has no issues with his or her self, as with many who have not yet found themselves, and i might add that the suicide rates etc play a big part in what society deems "normal" for human sex behavior and tends to be homophobic, which causes the many psycholocical probs that they have to deal with.

[edvedr]

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yes she was. but as for it being harmfull. them commiting suicide is not the same harm as a child molester or a rapist. they are making a choice to kill themselves most likely cause they are gay and are having a hard time dealing with it. a victom of a child molester or rapist has no choice. a homosexual act is consentual by both partys so its not fair to compare them to rapists or child molesters. and i don't know why you put a nambla thing in there. i am talking about homosexuals not homosexual child molesters

[angryoldman]

Re: i'm curious

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studies included one by Seattle child psychiatrist Dr. Thomas Roesler. In 60 interviews with young gay men in the early 1970s, Roesler found that 48 percent of them had sought psychiatric care and 31 percent had attempted suicide.

Gay men are six times more likely to attempt suicide than their straight counterparts and the numbers increase exponentially during the holidays. This story appears in the Dec/Jan 99 issue of Genre

You are correct. Many studies have been done that show homosexuals lead the way in alcoholism and suicide attempts. It has a lot to do with not accepting what you are and the harsh effects that society has on homosexuality. I bet if some gay folks read this board they would want to committ suicide.

[edvedr]

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You are correct. Many studies have been done that show homosexuals lead the way in alcoholism and suicide attempts. It has a lot to do with not accepting what you are and the harsh effects that society has on homosexuality. I bet if some gay folks read this board they would want to committ suicide.

agreed. in your point ryker i say its actually society thats the one doin the harm. not the gay person

[Ryker77]

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So society should accept child molesters, rapist, terrosist?

[Ryker77]

Re: i'm curious

just remeber when ever a pro gay person uses the a phrase you can almost always interchange "gay" with "child molester"

Example: It has a lot to do with not accepting what you are and the harsh effects that society has on child molesters. I bet if some phedophiles read this board they would want to committ suicide.

in your point ryker i say its actually society thats the one doin the harm. not the terrosist person.

terrosism is over the top. but a terrosist would say that society caused hime to commit the crime.

[edvedr]

Re: i'm curious

So society should accept child molesters, rapist, terrosist?

nope

[edvedr]

Re: i'm curious

just remeber when ever a pro gay person uses the a phrase you can almost always interchange "gay" with "child molester"

thats frickin crazy. as i stated before. there are no victoms if a gay guy has sex. its consentual. a child is being harmed by someone with an affliction. i don't see how you can compare the 2. why just because they both have a hard time dealing with who they are. shit so does just about every teenager going thrrough puberty.

[Ryker77]

Re: i'm curious

Homosexuality does cause harm. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/graphics/images/L206/l206_8.gif


also the increased drug abuse, STD's, and suicide rates. I would call that harm.

Back to the orginal topic. Gay lifestyle is a choice. Perhaps just perhaps they might be born that away. Who knows. But they must choose to act upon it.

[PL456]

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Homosexuality does harm the individual. Why do you think there are so many alcoholics, addicts, and suicides in that group? It is because they are suffering on the inside for doing what they know in their heart is a shameful behavior. Society shuns them, yes, because they commit shameful acts just as society shuns other shameful behaviors. The homosexuals by and large have big chips on their shoulders and are very defensive, if you'll notice. They have over the top personalities and are usually the life of every party. why? because they are trying their best to compensate inside themselves to justify their behavior and put a happy face on it. Also, if you notice, too, A LOT of them have screwed up backgrounds, especially with their fathers. I really feel for the homosexual group. They are for the most part really lost in their way.

[kite]

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I certainly don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle but at the same time I can't say that it's the same as child molestation. A pair of homos do no where near the damage physically or emotionally as someone preying on children. Sure they are harming themselves and thier "partners" but so are drug addicts and I wouldn't equate an addict with a molester either.

And for the record, I'm a he not a she.

[edvedr]

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And for the record, I'm a he not a she.

lmao, sorry bro. for some reason "kite" just made me think female. damn it i was just gonna start tryin to get nude photos from ya :p