VERY HURT BIG TIME

[3Vandoo]

If she going along her father's wish, you dont belong to her at all and she dont merit you. If she really love you, she would have stood up in "theory". How old is she? fuck, try to meet her and both run away to Canada, hell South America!

As for her father, seriously he's a fuck and I dont think you wanna be in that family at all.

I dated a muslim girl a while back ago and it was HER MOSQUE that put pressures on her, to cancel dates etc..

[mick-G]

Mike is off work. Will prob reply Monday lol. I agree Vandoo! If she truely loves him, she would have fought or at least try to meet with Mike to maybe talk it over give him some way of contact. She is prob afraid of what her father might do if he were to find out. Problem is that this nationale sometimes the males will take revenge on the daughter and kill or have them killed to return the families respect. I just hope this is not the reasoning for sending her back to Kuwait. Both want to please their families so i see no recourse, but for him to forget about her and move on, as he is too young to get caught up in this type of hopla. BTW the girl is 26.

[IntensityX]

Damn I don't envy you one bit bro,wish there was an answer I can give you but the only answer I or anyone can is listen to your heart and hope it leads you to where you want to go,if that means leaving her because of this then so be it,it sucks I know but we all have a destiny to fullfill,if yours is to leave her and find someone else then that's the way things have to be.

Wish there was more I can say,good luck my friend and I hope things work out for the best for ya.

[SMILEY FACE]

to all my family at FG, thank u sooo much for the support it really helped me a lot somehow. but after she broke up wt me , i know that she will call me back in couple of months and tell me it did work out wt her ex, but it is going to be late, i'am focusing right now on even getting bigger, paying off my debt, and saving some money for the future. i miss her a lot , i mean a lot but kept super busy on the weekend and didn; teven think about her a bit but when i got bac home, damn it sucked, and i guess time will heal the wounds, i really don't want any conctact wt her coz i know it will hurt me even more and there IS NO SOLUTION, whatsoever and even if we get back together the prob is going to be there.

[mick-G]

Hey Mike, if she is willing to go back out with her ex???why even think about her, she obviously doesn't about you. Sounds like it wasn't as serious as you may believe.

[blink]

Bro, you said it yourself, in so many words - you have no control over what she does, where her alliances are, and the decisions she makes for whatever reason.

What you're going through is a piece of hell that we all go through at one time or another. Not that that makes it any less painful, but know that you're not alone, all of us have been there. You're doing youself some serious justice by reaching out for support.

Time will heal this wound, and will also provide you with perspective, meaning, you will realize that this isn't about you, personally, it's about a woman who is scared shitless to defy her family, at any cost.

Hang in there, bro, you're gonna be ok.

[BM]

Mike, I think she has shown you where her allegiences (sp?) lie and whether you like the end result or not you must realize that everything happpens for a reason and that bigger and better things lie ahead. You got my # and I'm just down the street so if you want to talk you know where to find me!

[SMILEY FACE]

thank all, but mick g, her dad made her call her ex over the phone on a 3 way and her dad all what he cares about is being muslin, she told him i wanna be wt mike, and man was cussing and felft bad for her coz of me,all good time to move on slowy.

[mick-G]

I understand. Just sounds like a no win situation. Realistically the only way you two could do this, is if you were living on your own and she left home to be with you. Even at that, her father could have someone go after you or her. You want to keep your faith; Would she change hers for you?, even if that could happen?? Realistically maybe she wants to be Muslin, have you ever talked to her on this? Really to me it sounds like both your parents are making your decisions. You two are both adults, and you have to become independant at some point, yes? At 26yrs of age she needs to get out of her parents controls and even if it is drastic, like moving out without her parents knowing, it is better then being sent to another country, where she will surely be unable to make any decisions for herself. To me it doesn't sound like she can make these decisions on her own or is to afraid to do anything, but if she doesn't make a move her life will always be dominated by her father. Surely you must have had some talk about this before all of this? I just question the seriousness of this relationship, because its seems there are no future plans mentioned or what she even feels she wants for herself.

[SMILEY FACE]

mick, u are right no win situation no matter waht. as a matter of fact , i told u she moved out and bought her own town house and everythign is paid for she is loaded as hell, but her father is still going to control her no matter how old she is in other word IT HAS TO BE ARRAGED MARRIAGE FOR HER. we spoke about our religion, and doesn't care at all, she told me i don't care but her father is up her ass and i understand taht completley how middle easter people are. what i miss about her the most are: her manners, honesty, personality, and she is opend minded adn a big heart. but all good what can i do.

[SMILEY FACE]

living large check ur pm when u ge a chance, tahnks mike

[mick-G]

Can i ask who paid for the house? What i mean is does her father control her by money??, power etc. I have seen cases where the father will use mind games to control what he wants for his children. Does she feel guilty in making decisions based on what her father will think or do? Maybe she is uncertain if your relationship, or that your feelings are not strong enough for her to make that kind of decision? You said you would not change your faith either, because of your family coming first and your father would not talk to you if you did. If so, then you have the same problem. If you two are truely commited to yourselves and plan to marry, then the two of you have to decide which is more important, your parents wishes or your futures together.

[BM]

I kinda agree with mick here. Really think hard how much you care for her. To what lengths are you willing to go? I know if my parents told me to not marry my fiancee I would tell them sorry, I love you both, but she comes first and would marry her regardless.

[SMILEY FACE]

her mom and dad paid for i guess...... no my paretns told me i can do whatever but they prefer me to be wt chrtisina, tehy don't care, but they will be upset , but on her case, no chrits whatsoever, i love her to death, but no way i'am going to convert, beleive me she was sure about US, and hten she was talking about the will from her paretns, her dad won't give her aything unless she marry muslim. my paretns are cool wt her and they like her no matter waht she is, but her daddy, anyway i'am trying hard to move and forget about her, so sick of being hurt and when u are nice everyt1 rides ur back. it is ended anyway what can i do and since she is back wt her ex muslin man, NO WAY IN HELL GETTING BACK HER WILL NOT LOWER MY PRIDE TO THAT LEVEL EVEN THOUGH SHE MEANT EVERYTHIN 2 ME

[mick-G]

Well, Mike the ball is in her court. Let her have fun playing with it. Someday she will realize the price she is paying for her dads $. I for one know that money can not buy you happiness. Just remember to find out first, next time you meet a woman you might fall for, what faith she is and save yourself this kind of heartache.