genitic potential??

[Billy_Bathgate]

Originally posted by Cirrus2000
Oh trust me I want to look good for this......I want to impress a couple of the guys there (no not that way).

Sometimes I guess guys like a lot of the ones on this board, well they were the jocks in HS and didn't know what it was like to be ostracised and made fun of to the point where you hate yourself, and yourself worth. You even think you're not worthy of living.

And then the day comes you get over it for the mostpart, but not totally.....the "burning anger" is still there, that competetive part that you never brought out when you were younger.

You yearn for the respect of the HS jocks....not because you want to be bossom buddies, but because you want them to finally accept that you are a worthy person. It burns in you like a fire, looking for the right opportunity to finally say "Here I am, look at me you fucker...I can be just like you"

You guys think I still have a few issues LOL.

I know how you feel. I used to be a fat little fuck in elementary. I got teasted all the damn time. I ended up switching school districts and ended up "growing into my weight" so that went away....but everynow and then Ill run into some one (while im back home) that I used to goto school with. The look on their faces are priceless!

[Mudge]

I knew someone that was always fat, at some point in high school though he ended up about 6'3" and in pretty good shape, he likewise seemed to 'grow into it' all within a couple years.

[Billy_Bathgate]

Man I got the distended belly too! I dont know why, I like it though. I like to stick it out like im pregnant when Im with a chick at the grocery store or something...lol

Does your insurance cover Patches? I think they are very beneficial for the 35+ crowd.

Side note:What is that lump on your upper left back? I notice it in all the pics.
What type of supplements are you on? Feel free to email me or PM if you wanna get more into this. I got plenty of time to help out a fellow bro!

[Sachet]

Originally posted by Cirrus2000
It's inspiring to hear that about your dad. I know I'll never look like a Bouncer or MikeXXL....that's not really my goal. Even the 20 lbs your Dad put on is maybe more than I want.

My goals right now are to lose the dang bodyfat....and I am doing cardio 5 times a week right now and it's working. I have lost 23 lbs since the beginning of October. (I fell off from about Thanksgiving to X-Mas but that was by design......it was the Holidays :p) More important you can see the bodyfat loss (pictured below) Those pics were from Oct 20th to Nov 18th. I have since lost about 7 more lbs.

Kev~

Are you doing strength training along with the cardio work outs?

Oh wait! I just read this;

[QUOTE]Well I was always the skinny fuck in school, but as the years go on I got the classic belly, but even after lifting for 4 years (mostly a PL style of training) my body hasn't responded well.[QUOTE]

What is PL style of training?
Is that similar to HIT?

[Billy_Bathgate]

8lbs on a cycle IMO is an underestimate. Although, if you are a fellow PL (like me ) then it may be about right. Just depends on your training

You follow WSBC correct? On my off days I do a form of Active Recovery training that incorporates BB stuff like flies.

Ill check out AnaSci. I got your PM and Ill email you soon.

Sachet, PL style is mainly HIT style maxing out, and then working accesory muscles. It is split into a bench day and a squat/deadlift day. These 2 days are also then trained again but with a lower intense speed day, where as the name implies focuses on explosiveness and speed.

[Billy_Bathgate]

Really? The volume with WSBC is much lower compared to what I used to do.

Heres what Im gonna do tonight for Squat/Dead ME

Green Reverse Band Deads (rember REVERSE )
275x3, 315x3, 365x1, 405x1, 455x1, PRx1 (hope) I may have to go buy some more weights soon. Id like some 100lbs ers

Chain supended GM's 225 3x5

Pull throuhgs...200 on stack 4x8

Some ab work, probally weighted crunches 3x5


I set the bands up doubled but only so they help on the bottom 1/2 of the lift, after that its all me.

I use bands and chains though...

I have made awesome gains with this, while OFF cycle. Ive piddled around testing out some new products, but not a real full blown cycle. You can make some serious gains on this program. Tommorow, for my active recorvery, I will probally do soem leg extensions and leg curls, 4x15 of each...lighter weight.

Ive only been into it for about 6 months. Of them 6 months, 1 month I was gymless, the other month I was back home in Indiana gymeless again. So the on and off crap kinda has slowed down what I could have thought to be great progress.


ITs tough, Ill say that for sure. When I am done, I am a completely pile of drenched sweat. Ive never spent myself as much in BB (no offence guys). I usually walk/jog in the morning about a mile or two with my dog. Im gonna try to drop my excess luggage and greatly improve my strength:weight ratio..as I think it sucks.


I added you to my AIM, Ill hit you up if I see you on and we can chat some more in depth.

[Billy_Bathgate]

I got my chains at lowes. I got 2 sections of 3ft 1/4 chain and then 4 sections of 5 ft 3/8 chain

I double the 3/8 chain and put 2 per side. (couldnt find 5/8 so did this instead). Then I clip them to the 1/4 chain which then clips to those cheasy mettal spring collars. I can then adjust the 1/4 for the right heights.

Im gonna get probally 2 more sections per side so it will end up being about 50lbs total in chain.

band i got at www.jumpstretch.com i just got the greens. ive been working on a way to set them up fast and easily adjustable. after about 5 trips back and forth to lowes i can set em up now in under a minute at any tention i want. i used some chain, some cable, some hooks, a homemade pully and some other shit.


Wheres your weak spot on bench? Mine was always right off the chest. I can lockout like a mofo though. Ive been focusing on speed and lats to bring it up, its gettin better.

My squats have really improved since I started going really wide and using the glutes and hams and not so much of the quads. huge difference. I usually do low or high box squats, but every now and then a regular to test it out. I dont deadlift much more than 1x a month. I do GMs every time though. Suspended ones are much different than regular ones. You can go very heavy safely. I havent maxed them in a long time...maybe next week i will.



How long have you been at it? How long away till your reuninon? Ill try for the PR, Im gonna have to tie soem standard plates onto my weights thoguh...i think my oplympics run out at 475 or so.

[Sachet]

Ya know what Kev?!
Forget about that sissy I referred you to..
Billy blows him away in knowledge anyway.

I thought this was interesting opinion from a guy on another site..

'HST is hard to measure in terms of success. It's not a strength program where the weight on the bar is your guide to how the program is going, it's a size program. Since I'm dieting it's hard to get accurate numbers. I like it for the diet though. It's a higher work frequency and lower intensity -- most of the time -- than HIT which is what I was looking for. Just on my opinion I have to say I like it. Nothing substantial to back that up, just an opinion.'

hypertrophy-specific.com


Have you started a journal to keep track of everything you're eating?

Another thing you could do in addition to your strength training & already established cardo workout ~ SWIM!!
Too bad you can't just spot reduce, huh?! *lol*
You would hafta find a pool you could use for lap swimming, but swimming would definatly help you slim down even faster.

Bigjake from MC was a competitive swimmer in highschool~
This is what he had to say from another site from a board titled ' What is the ultimate form of exercize' or something like that..

'I think swimming is great for an aerobic activity. It's a great way to burn fat and it's easy on the joints in most cases. The main thing it does I believe is burn calories and increases cardiovascular endurance. If you swim several miles everyday for years though you may get hip or rotator cuff problems. This happens to some long term swimmers, but I think it's far safer than running for the joints. I used to be a competitive swimmer and swam 2-2.5 miles monday through friday in high school. The only downside to swimming is that if you are looking to put on muscle mass it isn't going to help. I used to be really really small and cut up in high school and couldn't hold any weight on my body, neither fat or muscle, because I was swimming so much. When I stopped I did not alter my diet and blew up. I lifted weights in high school, but nothing like I do now. I am now able to hold muscle size, but if I started swimming long distances again I am sure my muscles would shrink up and I would lean out more. Swimming is a great and fun activity, but the amount of time you put into it should be dependent upon your overall goals as with any sport I guess.'

[Sachet]

Originally posted by Billy_Bathgate
8lbs on a cycle IMO is an underestimate. Although, if you are a fellow PL (like me ) then it may be about right. Just depends on your training

You follow WSBC correct? On my off days I do a form of Active Recovery training that incorporates BB stuff like flies.

Ill check out AnaSci. I got your PM and Ill email you soon.

Sachet, PL style is mainly HIT style maxing out, and then working accesory muscles. It is split into a bench day and a squat/deadlift day. These 2 days are also then trained again but with a lower intense speed day, where as the name implies focuses on explosiveness and speed.

Would there be sites for PL, WSBC & BB? Anyone?
I like to read about this stuff!