Do you think things will change in Iraq now?

[Got Gear?]

Lol..

It's one responsibility to help those who WANT help.

But forceing help on someone who doesn't want it isn't right either. And this is what happened in IRAQ. Ask the general population, and you'll find they would rather have Sadam than Bush. They wrongly believe he is the lesser of 2 evils.

That's the problem...they don't want your help. They are stupid, bullheaded, brainwashed, and manipulated via religion. So if you force it on them, it just brings resentment.

[3Vandoo]

the Iraki are not brainwashed by religion they are the less pious Muslim country out there, believe me.

Would you like a country that killed 200 000 people of yours that say "hey im here to help you, even since 12 years we forced you to genocided, 1 million children died of unger dued to embargoes and all"

If Ill be Iraki, Ill be fighting.

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by 3Vandoo
the Iraki are not brainwashed by religion they are the less pious Muslim country out there, believe me.

Would you like a country that killed 200 000 people of yours that say "hey im here to help you, even since 12 years we forced you to genocided, 1 million children died of unger dued to embargoes and all"

If Ill be Iraki, Ill be fighting.

Some good points Vandoo, I agree. Tho I can't say I'd be fighting..

[3Vandoo]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
Some good points Vandoo, I agree. Tho I can't say I'd be fighting..

you are too much of a target with these ears

[gongshow]

Originally posted by 3Vandoo
Are you blind?

Bush is the worst ennemy the US ever he killed his alliance, distrusted his allies and acts on his wills for his own INTERESTS, not the interests of the US and its citizens. Also he acts as a child toward everyone in politics. What he has done so far? NOTHING, lied and lied and lied and lied to the world, fucked his citizens so he get richer.

And do you know what the US are responsible for killing, raping, multily, genocides all over this world.
This goes from the Balkans to Rwanda, to Iraq(hey who gave them chemical weapon to bomb the kurds? Not Mexico eh).

And how can you call a civilized country one that doesnt have healthcare and has 12 000 killings by firearms every years. One that send a child to prison because he bought steroids? The civilized world doesnt exist! Only a false exclamation by the western world. Oh yeah sorry the "free world" as bubya like to use.

My point

BUSH IS SYNOMYN OF A ****!



3Vandoo is a strong supporter of 2005's Bush indictment as War Criminal, please sign that petition that already has hundred of millions of names.




now pay me a beer and we'll argue

***** ***** *****, it does no good he will be back in 2004!

[3Vandoo]

Originally posted by gongshow
***** ***** *****, it does no good he will be back in 2004!

fuck it, just kill me I cant handle another 4 years !!!!!!!!

[gongshow]

lol

[Slightly Enhanced]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
Lol..

It's one responsibility to help those who WANT help.

But forceing help on someone who doesn't want it isn't right either. And this is what happened in IRAQ. Ask the general population, and you'll find they would rather have Sadam than Bush. They wrongly believe he is the lesser of 2 evils.

Sorry CG, but that is completely incorrect. These are the poll numbers:

“Most residents of Baghdad say that ousting Saddam Hussein was worth the hardships they've endured since then, says a Gallup poll that shows they are divided on whether the country is worse off or better off than before the U.S. invasion.

Two-thirds, 67 percent, say they think that Iraq will be in better condition five years from now than it was before the U.S.-led invasion. Only 8 percent say they think it will be worse off.”

[Slightly Enhanced]

Originally posted by 3Vandoo
Are you blind?

Bush is the worst ennemy the US ever..... fucked his citizens so he get richer.

That is the most unintelligent thing I have ever heard you say. That is completely unfounded. Please share how he will get richer. You may argue that he wants power, but money???? The man has all he can spend

[Slightly Enhanced]

Having a strong coalition would be great. But many Americans like myself refuse to give up our sovereignty to the UN or any other governing body.

And the majority of Americans are behind the efforts underway.

“A new CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey finds an increase in support for the war in Iraq. Since the end of September, the number of Americans saying the war was worth it has increased. In the past month, support for keeping American troops in Iraq has also increased. A clear majority of Americans continue to support the U.S. decision to go to war in Iraq, but less than a majority approve of how well the United States is doing there now. Still, Americans are more optimistic than pessimistic about the long-term situation in Iraq.”

[lxorl]

I am pretty sure there will be less statues and murals of him now.. .call it a hunch.

[Luftdude]

Hmmm, I agree with Vandoo. To tell the truth when the time came for a presidential election I acted like a drone and voted G.W. Bush. This time, it ain't gonna happen uh uh. My vote for 2004 will be Wesley Clark and if I vote for Bush again, this will probably be the last you see of me

LD

[MYRICK]

THE SAD THING ABOUT OUR COUNTRY IS OUR GOVT DOES MORE TO HELP OTHERS THAN OUR OWN WE WOULD RATHER GIVE HOMES AND FOOD TO IRAQIS THEN OUR OWN PPL HERE. I DONT SEE BUSH SENDING THE ARMY TO GIVE OUR HOMELESS FOOD AND SHELTER

[3Vandoo]

Originally posted by Slightly Enhanced
That is the most unintelligent thing I have ever heard you say. That is completely unfounded. Please share how he will get richer. You may argue that he wants power, but money???? The man has all he can spend

CNN Gallup poll HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

yeah right, US media shows what they want YOU to believe.

Unfounded eh.

Ok after a month Bush was in power be raise the taxes on Canadian softwood going againts NAFTA rules and laws. But, two months before he did this, he bought two companies specialized in softwood, now these two companies are the biggest in the US and there profit increased enormously.

Enron, the Bush's admin did nothing. Of course not. his staffs are all employees of other oil entreprises that capitalized on it.

I can go on and on and on and on.

Unintelligent remark..... Well, you still in school and I work as a military officer since years and in strategic studies (terrorism is my expertise, well now everyone is an expert since 2001 ) The US admin under Bush destroyed all links with the Europeans, than the US developped over centuries.
Destroyed the relationship with Canada, his number 1 partner in everything, because Mr Bush is poooting on our Prime-Minister.. come on gimme a break.

The US image soared to the lowest in US history, it will take 20-30 years to regain the trust of the allies but regain the image, it might never happen.

I am seriously tired of seing the good average folks looking at Bush like he's a God, a super president. He did nothing to the USA, NOTHING. Just for his pooting, because Canada refused to join in Iraq ( even if we were there unofficially) Bush himself cancelled hundred of contracts that the US gov had in Canada.

And HERE THIS AFFECT ME, My team was supposed to get a 10k sponsoship form Bell helicopter. The Marines cancelled their buying, 600 people were fired, we lost our promised money of course, this was signed by the man himself.

You want to go to the military huh...
after a year in, and if Bush is still there you will HATE THE GUY. 99% of the US military hates Bush. How you like to see your benefits taken away and we kick you 2 years away from your family, because he hates some "bad guy", and you go save the US freedom abroad by putting your life on the line so Bush and friends get the contracts of reconstructing and ressourcing the oil etc etc... all of this based on lies.

If you want to read more. Please dont use the US media. Check the diplomatic world, MEMRI, or worst the Canadian Institute of Strategic Studies, you might find alot of interesting reading about him.

and my remark of " Bush is the worst ennemy of the US" was made in the International Political Science Association Assembly last year by university professors, ex military together. Both US and foreign.

[3Vandoo]

Originally posted by MYRICK
THE SAD THING ABOUT OUR COUNTRY IS OUR GOVT DOES MORE TO HELP OTHERS THAN OUR OWN WE WOULD RATHER GIVE HOMES AND FOOD TO IRAQIS THEN OUR OWN PPL HERE. I DONT SEE BUSH SENDING THE ARMY TO GIVE OUR HOMELESS FOOD AND SHELTER

With all the money the US spent in weapons and all. You could have set an healthcare system for all US citizens accross the country.

But again, like they care BULLSHIT interests of a few "elite".