most practical martial art?

[Dragon]

kenpo is great, teaches pre-emptive(sp?) offense as well as defense. Also teachs fastest and some times very lethal way to disable opponents, ,not really practical for sport!!! Nice combo style of hard and soft styles. All round great.

[rude]

Originally posted by latinsteel
I'm a boxer by trade. Started out learing boxing at a young age when I was homeless at age 14...to make it short I was taken in by my former boxing trainer who let me live there and train for free. Still being active in boxing I was able to wrestle in HS for 4 years, and I started BJJ in the begaining of last year. You can say I am a mixture of boxing, wrestling, and BJJ now.

Thats pretty good. you are pretty much trained like those guys from the UFC (vitor belfort and Tito Ortiz are my favorites). I use to box briefly a few years back, I was going to enter the toughman tournament when they came to south texas last year. Have you ever competed bro?

[kwik20r]

Stand up: Muy Thai (or american kickboxing, just learn to throw your elbow and knees), or boxing to get that hand speed up.

Up close then to the ground: Wrestling and Jujitsu... take 'em down, wrap 'em up, then either pull the ground and pound or "submit them"... they aren't gonna tap on the street so choke 'em out. There's no cage and mat in RL, so the takedown itself can be rough as hell on the asphalt.

It's nice to learn throws too... Judo or Aikido is good for that. Judo would be my pref. Hip toss dropping to side control (jujitsu) works great on anyone who doesn't know their shit.

[Mudge]

Originally posted by Rock
i have taken taekwondo for about 8 yrs of my life and i love it,.all the open style tournaments i have been to they always seem to come out on top..

I've heard nothing but negative about Tae Kwon Do it seems, I'm not putting in my own 2 cents because I dont know enough about it, thats just what I keep hearing from people. I also hear that its hard on your joints which for me would be a big problem, snap kicks etc, comments?

[kwik20r]

Mmmm... from personal experience, Tae Kwon Do isn't real practical for an actual fight, but it has it's good points... fast kicking, flexibility, and follow through on some of the kicks.

[latinsteel]

Originally posted by rude
Thats pretty good. you are pretty much trained like those guys from the UFC (vitor belfort and Tito Ortiz are my favorites). I use to box briefly a few years back, I was going to enter the toughman tournament when they came to south texas last year. Have you ever competed bro?

Yes, I was Airzona 160 lbs golden gloves champion and I had 14 amature boxing matches but had to stop due to my job to support myself.

[THE JUICE]

how old r u latinsteel

[latinsteel]

Originally posted by THE JUICE
how old r u latinsteel

22 hermano.

[Rock]

i have only fought in about 6 open style tournys and it just seems, that my style of fighting, has such an advantage.. and yes flexibility is a big key in tae kwon do most of the time i can win without my opponents getting close to me.. i could possible see it being hard your joints, though i have never experienced any pain in that area

[Mudge]

I tried to get advice about what would really be appropriate for a taller/heavier person, and Aikido or defensive type "arts" seemed like what kept coming up. Since most of us here dont aim to be 140 pounds, anyone though about this? I have always been pretty flexible and could do kip ups/hand springs (whuppee) for as long as I could remember. Its not much to guys who can do 30 backflips in a row, but for a semi-large person I've always been able to move pretty well, but I would admit keeping the heart rate DOWN and using mostly defense and occasional open shots is probably the way to go.

[kwik20r]

Originally posted by Mudge
I tried to get advice about what would really be appropriate for a taller/heavier person, and Aikido or defensive type "arts" seemed like what kept coming up. Since most of us here dont aim to be 140 pounds, anyone though about this? I have always been pretty flexible and could do kip ups/hand springs (whuppee) for as long as I could remember. Its not much to guys who can do 30 backflips in a row, but for a semi-large person I've always been able to move pretty well, but I would admit keeping the heart rate DOWN and using mostly defense and occasional open shots is probably the way to go.

"For a discerning mind there is value apprehensible in all walks of life". Put it this way... you can reap the benefits of any martial art you go with... traditional martial arts are great for discipline, meditative practices, coordination, accuracy of strikes, and conditioning. Muy Thai is over a thousand years old and it's still one of the most effective martial arts for practical striking on the standup game (great in the cage, no doubts on that man, lol). You're not wanting to go with muy thai though so I'll drop that... I just moved from Cali, spent most of my life there, there's no shortage on diversity as far as finding an instructor goes out there for most anything you wanna study. It's pretty easy to find a studio that teaches hybrid martial arts (combinations of styles, usually consisting of stand up fighting, wrestling, and submission techniques). I'd say look into that, never hurts to sit in on a couple of sessions and see what the people there are all about.

[muscle_n_blood]

I'm too old for that shit. I don't have anything left to prove in that area, to myself or anyone else. If I have to defend myself, it's gonna be with a double barreled shotgun

[Mudge]

kwik20r, I agree, I think we can obtain something from just about anything if we pay attention

Too old? Shit, your never too old. What happens when you have to reload, what happens when you get the death penalty for being a "gun freak gone nuts." Any gun enthusiast should know by now that if you dont find alternative methods, your going to get fucked by the system. Texas at least is alot more friendly towards that but I live in California, so guns are truly a last resort especially for a male.

You cant shoot anyone outside your home even if they have a gun. Once inside the house if they dont shoot first, your asking for trouble. You must prove beyond reasonable doubt that your life was in danger and this is alot more difficult for a man than a woman, hence the only sure fire way to get away with it is to be half dead yourself, its alot of BS and frankly there are other ways. Plus its another way to stay limber and in shape, and I have always valued that.

[kwik20r]

Originally posted by Mudge
kwik20r, I agree, I think we can obtain something from just about anything if we pay attention

Too old? Shit, your never too old. What happens when you have to reload, what happens when you get the death penalty for being a "gun freak gone nuts." Any gun enthusiast should know by now that if you dont find alternative methods, your going to get fucked by the system. Texas at least is alot more friendly towards that but I live in California, so guns are truly a last resort especially for a male.

You cant shoot anyone outside your home even if they have a gun. Once inside the house if they dont shoot first, your asking for trouble. You must prove beyond reasonable doubt that your life was in danger and this is alot more difficult for a man than a woman, hence the only sure fire way to get away with it is to be half dead yourself, its alot of BS and frankly there are other ways. Plus its another way to stay limber and in shape, and I have always valued that.

I love my martial arts bro, but when it comes to a conflict on the street, I try to keep a clear head and not get into it (Okay, so I've gotta admit to a "few" roadrage incidents while stuck on the 91, the 110, the 405, etc. hehe). There's nothing to stop some youngbuck punk with a head full of shit from shooting you in the face. Kinda unlikely even in the most ghetto of places, and I've lived in some rock bottom holes, but still, not worth the risk... but when you can't avoid it, heh, I'd rather be the one that knows my shit than the guy that doesn't... and I'll also admit that I don't have any prob. disallusioning punks who want to "toe up" either, but thats a whole other issue. I do try to keep my head straight though, lol

[L.C.]

I believe that Chinese Martial Arts are some of the best styles to practice. Most gongfu styles have qinna (joint lock manipulation), shuai jaio (throwing & take downs), lock flowing, weapon training, full contact empty hand fighting, grappling and more.

I personally feel Taekwondo stylists are the most easiest fighters to beat. I've always felt a boxer was limited too, especially if you don't know qinna or grappling.

If your looking for long term fighting skills and had a whole hell of a lot of patience, I would recommend Chen style Taijiiquan. This styles is best described as iron wrapped in cotton for it's distinct combination of soft/hard techniques.

If your looking to gain fighting skills quickly there are many different gong fu styles to choose from. Shaolin, Xingyi, Bagua are all good.

I've always believed to pick a style from a good teacher, NOT so much the style itself, if that makes any sense. If the teacher is good and can correct you properly then you will progress much quicker than w/ a bad teacher.


L.C.