Advnaced FULLBODY routines?

[shainesboostin]

Any of you "advanced" guys/gals still use an old school 3 day fullbody routine? Ie: Monday, Wednesday, Friday...

It seems this is where alot of beginers start, and eventually lean towards the magazine splits: 4-5days dedicating a day to a specific muscle.

Personally, I kinda miss doing the Fullbody thing and wouldnt mind trying it again, but dont know if it can stack up to a typical 4-5day routine.

Lastly, if you do perform a 3 day routine, do you change your diet on off days?

[BABY1]

Re: Advnaced FULLBODY routines?

Check this one out that FIST posted:

This weight lifting routine is a full body workout, and can be performed…

• Alternating Days. This routine can be performed on alternating days. Workout using DAY A, rest the next. Perform DAY B, rest again.
• Weekends Off. With this rotation, you workout on Monday, Wednesday and Friday only. Continue to alternate between workout DAY A and DAY B.

DAY A. The Day A workout is a full body workout, with a focus on bench press, squats, and triceps.

• Squats. 3 sets of 6 reps, using the same weight. When you can perform 6 reps with the same weight, bump your weight up by 10 pounds on your next DAY A workout day.
• Bench Press. 3 sets of 6 reps, using the same weight. When you can perform 6 reps with the same weight, bump your weight up by 5 pounds on your next DAY A workout day.
• Dumbbell Rows. 2 sets of 8 reps, using the same weight. When you can perform 8 reps with the same weight, bump your dumbbell weight up by 5 pounds on your next DAY A workout day.
• Upright Rows. 2 sets of 8 reps, using the same weight. When you can perform 8 reps with the same weight, bump your weight up by 5 pounds on your next DAY A workout day.
• Seated Overhead Tricep Extensions (w/dumbbell). 2 sets of 8 reps, using the same weight. When you can perform 8 reps with the same weight, bump your dumbbell weight up by 5 pounds on your next DAY A workout day.

DAY B. The Day B workout is a full body workout with a focus on deadlifts, shoulders, and biceps..

• Deadlift. 3 sets of 3 reps, using the same weight. When you can perform 3 reps with the same weight, bump your weight up by 10 pounds on your next DAY B workout day.
• Seated Overhead Press. 3 sets of 8 reps, using the same weight. When you can perform 8 reps with the same weight, bump your weight up by 5 pounds on your next DAY B workout day.
• T-Bar (or Barbell) Rows. 2 sets of 8 reps, using the same weight. When you can perform 8 reps with the same weight, bump your weight up by 5 pounds on your next DAY B workout day.
• Dumbbell or Incline Bench Press. 2 sets of 8 reps, using the same weight. When you can perform 8 reps with the same weight, bump your dumbbell weight up by 5 pounds on your next DAY B workout day.
• Barbell or Dumbbell Curls. 2 sets of 8 reps, using the same weight. When you can perform 8 reps with the same weight, bump your barbell or dumbbell weight up by 5 pounds on your next DAY B workout day.

Notes.

• Deadlifts. You should not be near failure on any of your deadlift sets Use the same weight until you feel very comfortable with the weight, and bump up 10 pounds. This is not an invitation to get lazy. Keep pushing.
• De-loading. After alternating between DAY A and DAY B workouts 5 times, if you feel over-trained, fatigued, weak, lazy, or your joints are bothering you, take the next week and perform de-loading workouts. A de-loading workout is a lighter workout…use either 30-40% fewer sets, or 30-40% lighter weight.
• Seated Tricep Extensions.I DO NOT recommend performing this exercise without back support. It is best to perform it on an incline bench with the seat all the way up, or in a rack with a back behind your upper back.

[BABY1]

Re: Advnaced FULLBODY routines?

Another from FIST


Full-Body Workouts - C.S. Sloan

Advanced Programs: Using the Heavy, Light and Medium Concept

When lifters reach more advanced stages, they often switch to a split routine. Sometimes a split can be a good idea and sometimes not. A periodic return to a three day a week full-body routine is ALWAYS a good idea. One advantage is that all the muscles get equal attention, which gives you proportionate strength throughout your entire body and helps to determine any weak part. With most trainees the split system is often upper-body heavy and lacking in work for the legs and lower back.

A lot of lifters say they can’t perform three full-body workouts a week because they can’t do justice to other bodyparts because if they train legs first they’re too tired. The reason for this is simply – they’re out of shape. After a few weeks on a full-body routine they’ll have their strength up to previous levels on all bodyparts, and before long they’ll have surpassed personal records.

Another advantage for advanced lifters is that their muscle groups get worked more frequently with a full body workout. Here’s the kicker – you still hit each bodypart heavy only once a week. The other two sessions are light and medium workouts. This form of training has worked for many decades and still works today.

ADVANCED PROGRAM 1

Heavy Workout

Squats – 5 sets of 5, 1 set of 10.
Perform 2 warmup sets followed by 3 all-out sets of 5 reps. Pick a weight that makes you struggle to get 5 reps on all 3 work sets. Add weight at the next heavy workout and again whenever you manage 5 reps on all 3 sets. After the last set, drop down in weight for 1 set of 10 reps. The 10 reps should be next to impossible to perform.

Flat Bench Presses – 5 sets of 5, 1 set of 10.
Follow the same plan as squats.

Deadlifts – 5 sets of 5.
The same as above, but omit the higher-rep set.

Push Presses – 5 sets of 8.
Do 2 warmup sets of 8 followed by 3 work sets, going as heavy as possible for 8 reps.

Barbell Curls – 5 sets of 8
Same As above.

Incline Situps – 3 sets of 45.
Perform 15 reps as regular situps, 15 twisting to the right, and 15 to the left.

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Light Workout

Squats – 5 sets of 5.
Use a weight that’s 60 to 65% of the weight you used in the heavy workout. You’ll probably need only one warmup set, so you can do the remaining 4 sets with you work weight. Concentrate on speed and explosiveness. The concentric portion of each lift should be done as quickly as possible.

Flat Bench Presses – 5 sets of 5.
Same As above.

Good Mornings – 5 sets of 5.
This exercise is great for building strong lumbars. Perform 2 warmup sets followed by three heavy sets of 5 reps. Heavy, of course, is relative on this exercise. The mechanics of the exercise don’t allow for great poundages, thus, it falls on the light day.

Seated Dumbell Presses – 5 sets of 8.
Do 2 warmup sets followed by 3 all-out work sets.

Concentration Curls – 5 sets of 8.
As above.

Crunches – 3 sets of 45.
Perform these as you did the incline situps in the heavy workout. I put them on the light day because they don’t involve the effort that other ab exercises do.

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Medium Workout

Squats – 5 sets of 5, 1 set of 2.
Perform 2 warmup sets just as you did on the heavy day followed by 3 sets of 5 reps with a weight that’s less than what you used at that workout. I like to use around 85% of what I did on the heavy day. After your 5th set rest a few minutes and do a heavy double with more weight than you used on your heavy day. That will prepare you for the upcoming heavy day, when you’ll attempt to use the weight used for a double here 5 reps.

Flat Bench Presses – 3 sets of 5, 1 set of 2.
Same as above.

Stiff-legged Deadlifts – 5 sets of 5.
Do two warmup sets followed by 3 heavy sets of 5. The weight you use on these should be somewhere between what you use on the good mornings in the light day and the deadlifts in the heavy day.

Behind the Neck Presses – 5 sets of 8.(If you can do them,if not overhead dumbbell presses can be substituted)
Do 2 warmup sets followed by 3 heavy sets.

Barbell Curls – 5 sets of 8.
Same As above.

Hanging Leg Raises – 3 sets of 45.
Perform these to the front, right, and left side.

Here are some tips to help you get the most out of this program:
- Stick with it for least 8 weeks.
- After a month on the program, increase the weight you use on the light and medium days. Go to 75% on the light day and 90% on the heavy day.

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ADVANCED PROGRAM 2

This program incorporates the heavy/light/medium system, but goes about it differently. In this routine you perform different lifts on each day, and the exercise itself determines what day it falls on.

Keep in mind that what follows is just an example. Feel free to exchange the exercises on the light and medium days regularly as long as they fall within the guidelines.

Heavy Workout

Squat – 7 sets of 5.
Don’t deviate from the instructions for this exercise, no matter what. The full squat, or some version of it, should be the cornerstone of every workout in every routine. Here, however, you do 2 more sets than you did previously. Perform 3 progressively heavier warmup sets followed by 4 work sets of 5. Once you can get 5 reps on each of these sets increase the weight at the next session.

Flat Bench Presses – 7 sets of 5.
Same as above.

Deadlifts – 7 sets of 5.
Same as above. If you’ve followed the first two programs faithfully, you should be capable of handling this workload.

Alternate – Dips/Chins – 4 sets of 5.
After a good rest, and a few warmup sets, perform a set of dips, rest, do a set of chins, rest and continue back and forth until you complete all 8 sets.

Alternate – Barbell Curls/Pullover and Presses – 4 sets of 5.
Same as above.

Incline Situps – 3 sets of 60.
20 reps in each direction.


Light Day

Olympic-style Pause Squats – 5 sets of 5.
Use a fairly close stance and squat as low as possible, pausing at the bottom for a second before starting the ascent. Perform 2 warmup sets. Shoot for a weight that’s at least 75% of what you use on the work sets for your squats in the heavy workout.

One-arm Dumbell Bench Presses – 5 sets of 5.
This exercise will be tough when you first try it because of the coordination it takes. Stick with it, however, as it will greatly aid your regular flat-bench presses. Five sets each arm.

Round-back Good Mornings – 5 sets of 8.
Use caution with this exercise and go much deeper into the negative portion of the lift. Add small amounts of weight slowly.

Superset – Dumbell Curls/Lying Dumbell Extensions – 5 sets of 8.
Do a set of curls and go directly into the extensions, then rest and repeat.

Crunches – 3 sets of 60.


Medium Day

Bottom Position Squats – 5 sets of 5, 1 set of 3.
Set the pins in the rack below parallel. This exercise will bring new meaning to the words hard work if you’ve never performed it before.

Incline Bench Presses – 5 sets of 5.
Do 2 warmup sets followed by 3 work sets.

Power Cleans – 5 sets of 5.
This is one of the best back exercises in existence. The beauty of it is that you can work your lower, middle and upper back all in one exercise. If you’ve been lifting for a number of years and have never done any cleaning, you’ve done yourself a disservice. Do 2 warmup sets and 3 work sets.

Close Grip Chins – 5 sets of 5.
Use a regular knuckles-front grip on these. Add weight on the 3 work sets when possible.

Lying Barbell Extensions – 5 sets of 5.
Add weight slowly and in small increments.

Hanging Leg Raises – 3 sets of 60.

Here are some tips for getting the most out of the program:
- Remember, this workout is only a guideline. There are many applicable substitute exercises you can use to tailor the program to your own needs and limitations.
- If you feel overtrained or run down, avoid taking a layoff at first. Try switching to exercises that require the use of lighter weights for a week or two. That will decrease your total workload and may get you back on track when you return to the heavier exercises.
- After the first month, don’t be afraid to add a back-off set to your core exercises.

If you’ve never tried full-body workouts you owe it to yourself to give them a try. They may be retro but you can bet your butt they still work.

[shainesboostin]

Re: Advnaced FULLBODY routines?

Hmm, looks interesting. It kind of different how you do the same rep range, just with diferent %'s.

I was thinking maybe do the same lifts, but different REP ranges....

[Guest]

Re: Advnaced FULLBODY routines?

Thanks baby1.

Shainesboostin,these workouts are just guidelines and as everyone needs different training stimuli to achieve results,feel free to change them up as you see fit to better suit your needs.The best way to do it is to try these workouts as is for a while and make changes as you go along if needed.I am a firm believer in always mking changes to my training to continally make forward progress.You never wantt ostay with the same program for too long as you'll soon reach a plateau and get frustrated.