rhabdomyolysis

[horsepwr]

I don't know why, but I'm seeming to get this more often than I used to. Through my 20s I had a few hiatuses where I went without training for a few months and when I returned to the gym, I would get rhabdomyolysis. It's where you tear muscle tissue to the point of injury and muscle cells enter the bloodstream. You know you have it because when you urinate the next morning, it's darker than coffee with blood.
I'm not getting it as bad as if I were just hitting a group of muscles for the first time after atrophy, but every now and then, I'll notice red tint peepee.
Just yesterday evening I did it and I new right where it came from. During workout my left front delt blew up, like almost pulled...it was noticeably larger than my right front delt, and I could feel it.
It's hell on the kydney. Processing the muscle tissue, but I;m wondering why it's happening more now. Is it age? I'm noticing that I can make cetain muscle groups sore that I couldn't before too.
I wonder if I've gotten so focussed on the muscle group that i'm trying to work that I'm achieving that target group more than I realize??? idk???

[Doink the clown]

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Wow, this is interesting.I'm sorry you have to go thru this bro. I'm sure you have researched this to no end, so my question is have you found any supps that can alleviate the problem??What about gear, anything there to help??

[horsepwr]

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I don't know man. It's so random. It's not often, but I'd say about once a month or 2 I'll hit a certain muscle too hard, and bam...dark piss. I know it when it happens during workout.
Now you'd think; well...more gear, or gear that would make me lift more, as in give me more strength, would be a sure-fire culprit, but actually, I've never had it happen when I'm running d-bol or ad-50s, or stacking more stout of a dose. So it's not do to lifting more than I should.
You know how you're supposed to focus on the group you're hitting. idk, but I really think I'm mentally isolating to the point of straining a single muscle sometimes. sounds kinda tele...whatever, but idk bro???
But as you said. I have read up on it, and it's serious shyt. Rhabdomyolysis is not something you want to happen. I should finish that with a (!)

[horsepwr]

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one thing that is good though. I had full lab work done just a couple months ago, and all my organs, every piece of me, is in perfect shape. If it was doing the damage that I would be worried about, it would have shown up.

[Doink the clown]

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What if you went on a compound movements only workout, ie cleans,snatch-grip deadlifts,zercher squats, presses, do you think you would suffer the same pulls since the strain wouldn't be so isolated and the stresses would be more spread out??...And do you think you might just be ragging for the month?? :-)

[horsepwr]

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What if you went on a compound movements only workout, ie cleans,snatch-grip deadlifts,zercher squats, presses, do you think you would suffer the same pulls since the strain wouldn't be so isolated and the stresses would be more spread out??...And do you think you might just be ragging for the month?? :-)

lol...maybe.
But sticking to compound could be the answer. Even though I'm still isolating in certain exercises, I do compounds groups one month, e.g. back/bis, chest/tris. Then the next months just one group per day, .e.g. chest, arms, back, etc...
I need to keep track if it happens again.
Yesterday it happened during a finishing exercise hitting several groups at once, but I was focussing on my chest, and when I got finished my left front delt was puffed up and felt wrong.

[Doink the clown]

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Sounds like iso workouts are killing you. I wonder what a pure compound routine would do for you,maybe 6 months worth.

[horsepwr]

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yeah, literally. I don't know.
It could be that I'm doing high rep exercises finishing up lately to try and do what high rep excersises do, and I'm straining them then.??

[Doink the clown]

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You could just be pushing it to the extreme. An idea that guys like you have some trouble at first is going back to a rep scheme that when you hit that last rep of failure is to absolutely quit,write it down and try to beat it by a rep or two next time. This gives plenty of rest,strength and size go up albeit slower but surely. No more negatives,hyper-pumps,rest-pauses to failure,etc. a week off every 6-8 weeks is great too.
a good old fashioned 5x5 system may do wonders for you.

[horsepwr]

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You could just be pushing it to the extreme. An idea that guys like you have some trouble at first is going back to a rep scheme that when you hit that last rep of failure is to absolutely quit,write it down and try to beat it by a rep or two next time. This gives plenty of rest,strength and size go up albeit slower but surely. No more negatives,hyper-pumps,rest-pauses to failure,etc. a week off every 6-8 weeks is great too.
a good old fashioned 5x5 system may do wonders for you.

I wasn't about to say it, but I know damn well, just from past workout partners and watching other people train, that I push it to the limit. I told my wife, last time I turned the water in the toilet darker than the darkest coffee with a reddish tint, that I think it's because of natural work ethic. Most folks quit when they should, and sometimes I go a rep or 2 or 3 too far.
other than that, I'm a lazy ass
But seriously. I think that's the problem. You hear the term "muscle failure" and I feel that I shold hit that in the most literal sense.

[Doink the clown]

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And another couple of things:
How's your diet?
Are drinking enuff water?
And what supps are you taking?
Got me all curious now..............you gotta lighten up bro before you blow a fuse

[horsepwr]

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That's another thing. I'm plain and simple just not getting enough water.
My diet is on point.
I don't take OTC supps. I've taken creatine like twice throughout 10yrs.
I just gotta get more water, and not push that extra rep that pops a muscle out.

[Doink the clown]

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^^^cool, now go drink a gallon of h2o!

[horsepwr]

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I'm half way there.
I probably drink a half gallon at the gym, so...I haven't been skimpin that bad, but I haven't been up to par. Literally since I got hooked on coffee, which was several years ago.

[horsepwr]

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and thank you much for splittin hairs with me. I believe we got the kink worked right out.
Much appreciated Doinkologist.