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    Negative Reps




    Q: Are negative reps really superior when it comes to building mass?

    A: Negative, or eccentric-contraction, exercise involves the controlled lowering of a weight to the starting position. Raising the weight is called a concentric contraction. Most bodybuilding trainers advise that you take about two seconds to raise a weight during each repetition, followed by another four seconds to lower it for negative emphasis.

    Negative-only repetitions was a style of training advocated about 10 years ago but never accepted by most bodybuilders. It required you use weights that were far heavier than you could use concentrically. It never really caught on because of the nuisance of needing one to three training partners to help you raise the heavy weight, then spot you as you lowered it.

    This technique was based on research showing that most of the strength and size gains accrued from weight training occur during the negative portion of a rep. So does most of the muscular soreness you feel after an intense training session or after you try an exercise you’re not used to.

    The explanation given was that when you lower a weight, you use fewer muscle fibers, but those fibers work harder to control the weight. As a result, more damage occurs in those fibers. The body then repairs those fibers, making them thicker as an accommodation to the higher load imposed by negatives. This translates into increased muscular strength and size.

    The extreme damage to fibers during negative training came with a cost, however: the need for increased recuperation. When many bodybuilders became aware of this extra fiber damage and consequent needed rest time, they reduced the number of times they trained a muscle group each week.

    Thus, instead of working their bodyparts three times a week, they dropped it to twice or even once a week. While most bodybuilders didn’t know why they needed the extra rest, they instinctively sensed how much rest they needed because of rates of muscle growth and strength gains.

    Further studies finally uncovered exactly why eccentric exercise exacts this muscle damage toll. The extensive damage incurred during negative reps apparently inhibits glycogen synthesis in muscle after exercise. Glycogen, a complex carbohydrate stored in muscle, is not only the primary fuel for weighttraining but is also needed for muscle repair.

    This explained why negative exercise demands extra rest. Unless the muscle has repaired itself, you can rapidly fall into an overtrained state if you attempt to train that muscle before the repair-and-compensation process is complete. The remaining question was, What causes this diminished glycogen synthesis after negative training?

    Danish scientists had subjects perform negative-accentuated one-legged exercise, then measured a number of intracellular mechanisms involved in glycogen synthesis. They found that negative exercise apparently inhibits an intracellular protein called GLUT 4, which transports sugar, or glucose, into the cell. If this activity is inhibited, glycogen synthesis slows because less glucose is available.

    After two days or so the muscle GLUT 4 level returns to normal, and glycogen resynthesis begins again. In another study the same researchers discovered a possible antidote to the problem. Using isolated muscle cells, they found that vanadate, which is similar to vanadyl sulfate, increased and preserved the function of GLUT 4 in muscle. This may overcome the deficit incurred by negative training. It also partially explains the often-noticed increased carbohydrate utilization after athletes take supplemental vanadyl sulfate.

    In addition, a study reported in a 2003 issue of Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise seriously questions the assumed superiority of negative exercise for producing increased muscle size and strength. This new study compared concentric and eccentric contractions at equal power levels, but contrary to past studies, the researchers found that muscles work harder during the raising of the weight, the concentric part of the rep, rather than during the lowering.

    Earlier studies verified that negative reps involve a smaller percentage of muscle fibers compared to concentric, but it was assumed that since these fewer fibers have to bear an equal load, more stress is placed on them and they work harder. Not so, this new study asserts.

    The study involved exercising the front-thigh muscles, again using equal-power negative and positive contractions. The results showed greater muscular growth and strength after subjects performed the concentric, or positive, reps, although the scientists still aren’t sure why this occurred. Other studies note an increased oxygen intake during concentric work, and frog muscle studies found that eccentric exercise uses only one-thirteenth the amount of ATP as concentric work.

    All of this doesn’t negate the importance of negative reps (pardon the pun). It doesn’t mean you no longer have to control a weight on the way down, but it does point to the fact that both types of contractions (concentric and eccentric) are equally important. Significantly, the idea that you should do only negative exercise as a means of inducing gains in muscle size and strength now belongs in the pile of similarly authoritative but misguided pronouncements, such as “The Earth is flat.”
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    Re: Negative Reps

    so you want to "burn out" your muscles after training them? stop with the low rep hundreds of cable crossovers for that "burn". **** that, after your done training (most bodyparts apply to negatives with the exception of maybe back and quads, kinda hard to do negatives.) say chest/tris/bis etc... do a set or 2 of 3-6 negatives....wow, talk about being sore as hell. lets say on chest day you do x amount of sets and reps and you'r ealmost done but you have just a tad bit of energy left. well, get under some sort of bench wether it be incline, decline, flat, hammer, smith, whatever. put on a weight you know you wouldn't be able to lift due to you being fatigued, but then again, within reason. you WILL NEED A SPOTTER. DO NOT ATTEMPT HEAVY NEGATIVES WITHOUT A SPOTTER...ESPECIALLY IF IT INVOLVES YOU BEING UNDER A BAR. lift off the weight and control it down to your chest as slow as possible. for some it may take about 6 seconds, for others it may be 12 seconds, just depends on your interpretation of slow. have the spotter yank the weight back up, requiring little to no work from you to put it up. you're saving what energy you have left to control the weight on the way down, not up. do these for about 2 sets of 3-6, tell me how ya feel.
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    • #3
      Re: Negative Reps

      stactic training is a good example of additional rest for muscle to repair.. I've just started doing lower weights, more reps..

      that is 4 sets

      18-25 with 3 forced at the end

      3 days later now, and i'm still know i shouldn't work my arms again yet..
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      • #4
        Re: Negative Reps

        I LOVE NEGATIVES GUYS....MAN DO THEY BURN LIKE HELL,A GOOD BURN THOUGH...ALWAY STHROW THEM IN WITH MY WORKOUTS....I FEEL AS IF I GET STRONGER DOING THEM....AND GET BETTER REASULTS AND LESS INJURIES THEN IF I LIFT HEAVY ALL THE TIME

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        • #5
          Re: Negative Reps

          i like doing negatives. you just need a spoter and im a loner in the gym

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          • #6
            Re: Negative Reps

            ill do negatives from time to time but not as much as most

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