Using Thyroid Hormone

[ketsugo]

Re: Using Thyroid Hormone

On T-3 you CANNOT develop the more is better mentality due to the fact that number one, you will burn up all your muscle tissue, and number two, you could potentially screw up your metabolism for the rest of your life, I think number two catches peoples attention. Also every one talks about the "T-3 crash" when you discontinue using it, this is also false due to the fact that most of the people who talk about this normally go back to a bulking diet after the finish, of course your going to gain fat back if you do that!

The best way to come off would be to taper down and when coming of (due to the sluggishness of your metabolism) resume you diet plan for 4-6 weeks after, then start to slowly add calories back in until you are at your normal level. To cycle T-3, I would start with 25mg for the first week, 50mcg the second, 75mcg the third, (you could go up to 100mcg if you feel your body needs it) then stay at that dose for 2 weeks, then taper down by 25mcg per week until you are off. Again this is a dangerous drug when not used correctly, and you have to know your body very well (diet wise) to avoid muscle loss, which could occur.

another point
Thyroid dosage intake is not dependent on bodyweight or gender, but rather on the individual’s blood level. This means that females can take the same dosage volume and schedule as males.

[ketsugo]

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When I rabn t-3 with my GH the first time I just stuck with 25 every day didnt ramp used it for 3-4 weeks and I was fine. But did get tested after words to see what my level was. The 2nd and 3rd time I used it I ramped up and they both worked for me

Awesome- I always recommend to do precisely what you do- its perfect

[FUZO]

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When I rabn t-3 with my GH the first time I just stuck with 25 every day didnt ramp used it for 3-4 weeks and I was fine. But did get tested after words to see what my level was. The 2nd and 3rd time I used it I ramped up and they both worked for me

[ketsugo]

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And how did the blodwork come in for the "many" clients?

There were no issues as I do bloodwork and those I train do as well. I been doing it for long time my friend. Have you? I cant understand when people give me a snyde tone when they havent even done even one time. Whenever you try anything- you begin small and titrate in small incrrements- keep a diary of your training and how your body responds- If you leanr to read your body signals - you can always stop prior to having any major issues. On this forum we are talking of bodybuilding and fitness purposes- typically sponsors sell only 25mcg and or 50mcg pills- so to post every single solitary type and brand of thyroid really makes no sense. I mean why dont we list every single brand , lab dose and ester of Testosterone- It dont matter because for the puposes we typically use them for we use only a particular dosage. I mean no disrespect but your tone is a bit sarcastic as well- Im trying to explain it as easily as possible- If you dont know much about it then Im saying that you are over complicating things. There is a hysteria over this, like how the general public views AAS- yet of course we have tons of people on the forums abusing AAS

[ketsugo]

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I think as long as people stick to the guidelines of 6 weeks only and not doing ultra high dosages like 200-300mg that I see kids on other forums speak of- then your body will bounce back. We got people cycling aas nonstop- far moree dangerous than this

[BABY1]

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Personally I think one has to really know their stuff if they are going to mess with their thyroid. The thyroid controls so much in the body. Anytime synthetic or hormones, of any kind, are used your body's natural hromones can be shut down for a period of time or even permanently.

[firstenrgy]

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Here is a typical cycle that has been used by many- not the overdosing you see everyone on the forums talk of. Again?? there is no ryhme or reason to look at every single thyroid made - just get 25 mcg and dose as follow
Running it for three weeks, one could choose for a schedule as follows:

25/25/25/50/50/50/75/75/75/100/100/100/75/75/75/50/50/50/25/25/25 mcg/day

If taken for 4 weeks, then run each dose for 4 days, 5 weeks then each dose for 5 days and so on.

It is extremely important that the doses are tapered on and off and that a cycle never exceeds 6 weeks at the most.

And how did the blodwork come in for the "many" clients?

[ketsugo]

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Here is a typical cycle that has been used by many- not the overdosing you see everyone on the forums talk of. Again?? there is no ryhme or reason to look at every single thyroid made - just get 25 mcg and dose as follow
Running it for three weeks, one could choose for a schedule as follows:

25/25/25/50/50/50/75/75/75/100/100/100/75/75/75/50/50/50/25/25/25 mcg/day

If taken for 4 weeks, then run each dose for 4 days, 5 weeks then each dose for 5 days and so on.

It is extremely important that the doses are tapered on and off and that a cycle never exceeds 6 weeks at the most.

[ketsugo]

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Bro- I dont need to read the whole post- I call it too much thinking and clutter. Its frivolous to think one would need to consider all that. You could do that with any product. All that matters is you use it intelligently. You begin with low dose then ramp up and monitor how you feel. There is no right dose- never go overboard without taking a break. Thats how simple it is- You are over complicating a very simple matter

By the way the answer to my question is
Armour and Thyrolar are drugs that provide BOTH T4 and T3 thyroid hormones, instead of just providing T4, as levothyroxine sodium drugs like Synthroid do.

[firstenrgy]

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Strength (mcg) Color additive(s)

25mcg FD&C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake
50mcg None
75mcg FD&C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Blue No. 2 Aluminum Lake
88mcg FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, D&C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake
100mcg D&C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake
112mcg D&C Red No. 27 & 30 Aluminum Lake
125mcg FD&C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake,
FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake
137mcg FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake
150mcg FD&C Blue No. 2 Aluminum Lake
175mcg FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, D&C Red No. 27 & 30 Aluminum Lake
200mcg FD&C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake
300mcg D&C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake

Why are there so many strengths of t4 levothyroxine?
Because some, not all have problems converting t4 to t3.

To my point... let say you have normal thyroid funtion and I am and evil villian and I fry your thyroid and you will need to be on t4 for life. What is the right amount? As you can see, this could be from 25mcgs to 300mcgs.

This is why I almost passed on posting on this. People read what portions they want. I wrote as quoted above. Lets assume I'm an evil villian and fry your thyroid (so it will not work). Then and only then would you need oral thyroid hormone. Please read a post fully if you are going to comment on it

[ketsugo]

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Ive used thyroid off and on for 15 years- and I have trained guys and put them on it- never have i seen any issues with frying your thyroid- Many of the cycles done here are far more dnagerous than thyroid, I have to laugh at all the hysteria created

[firstenrgy]

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Strength (mcg) Color additive(s)

25mcg FD&C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake
50mcg None
75mcg FD&C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Blue No. 2 Aluminum Lake
88mcg FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, D&C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake
100mcg D&C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake
112mcg D&C Red No. 27 & 30 Aluminum Lake
125mcg FD&C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake,
FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake
137mcg FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake
150mcg FD&C Blue No. 2 Aluminum Lake
175mcg FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake, D&C Red No. 27 & 30 Aluminum Lake
200mcg FD&C Red No. 40 Aluminum Lake
300mcg D&C Yellow No. 10 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Yellow No. 6 Aluminum Lake, FD&C Blue No. 1 Aluminum Lake

Why are there so many strengths of t4 levothyroxine?
Because some, not all have problems converting t4 to t3.

To my point... let say you have normal thyroid funtion and I am and evil villian and I fry your thyroid and you will need to be on t4 for life. What is the right amount? As you can see, this could be from 25mcgs to 300mcgs. The only way you could know is to run a TSH lab test to determine if your body is asking for more or less.
The half life of t4 is 7-9 days (depending on when injested with/without food)You will not see full results for approximatly two weeks AND when discontinuing, it won't clear your system for the same.
This si a subject I have probably seen the most MISinformation on. Not to say what was posted here and in recent posts are incorrect but there is a lot to be considered.

[LightWeightBaby]

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Shoot one of the sponsors around sells the combo whats the name of the pill, anyone?

t-4 levothyroxine sodium, Synthroid, Levoxyl, Levothroid, Unithroid

t-3 liothyronine sodium, Cytomel, Triostat

[ketsugo]

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Shoot one of the sponsors around sells the combo whats the name of the pill, anyone?

[daved150]

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yea t4 is pretty hard to find it seems. I know t3 works i would like to try a t3/t4 combo and see what happens.

right!! get on that....find that shyt for us, lol