Other people's view on QV..

[34pumped]

upjohn is/was human gear

[Juice Authority]

Originally posted by goliath.jr
my criteria is that it is made by a reputable, *legal* lab and sold for human consumption. in other words - if you had a script, you could get it at wallgreens.

with ug labs, you never no if paco accidentaly droped his beef taco in a batch of EQ ya know. ...not really what i would consider 'human' grade.

Ok, I'm with that but I have a slightly different understanding and while there is no real clear cut definition that I'm aware of, human gear is made for human consumption by either a legit pharmecuetical company or an underground lab. I think the main difference is quality control. The human gear would be more sterile and accurately dosed. It's the process used, purity, powder, raw materials and experience of the lab that distinguish it from vet gear. Human gear are held to numerous quality control factors which insure its potency, sterility, and dose. Room for error is pretty slim with Human gear. I believe that all of the labs I previously mentioned would meet that criteria.

[x|Fluid|x]

not sure about EQL, but I agree on the rest.

(I have not used EQL personally, my judgment is based soley on posts from FG)

[Juice Authority]

Originally posted by x|Fluid|x
not sure about EQL, but I agree on the rest.

(I have not used EQL personally, my judgment is based soley on posts from FG)

I forgot to include BL and GM Private Label. EQL tested very good. In fact, it was overdosed per ml.

[BossMann]

Human gear must be made in a GMP (Good Manufacturing Practices) situation which means that every action taken in the lab is documented. People entering the lab, people leaving the lab, which scales that were used to weigh material, the person who mixed batches, the vessels used for mixing, etc.. Vet gear is made under GLP (Good Laboratory Practices) which means that the lab is clean and organized, no documentation is needed. Obviously, human grade QC is MUCH better.

[AustinTX]

Originally posted by Juice Authority
...., human gear is made for human consumption by either a legit pharmecuetical company or an underground lab.

Uh, not.

[Juice Authority]

Ok, I stand corrected. Thanks for sharing.

[AustinTX]

Originally posted by Juice Authority
Ok, I stand corrected. Thanks for sharing.

LOL. Keep your hostility pointed at Rado though, not me

I really don't know about the sterility and QC at underground labs, but since they are operating outside of the normal regulatory process, there is no guarantee on how sterile their supplies or end products are. Plus all those meth and coke labs in the movies are filthy

[Juice Authority]

Originally posted by AustinTX
LOL. Keep your hostility pointed at Rado though, not me

I really don't know about the sterility and QC at underground labs, but since they are operating outside of the normal regulatory process, there is no guarantee on how sterile their supplies or end products are. Plus all those meth and coke labs in the movies are filthy

No hostility Bro. You and I have never had a problem. You and BossMann made some good points. You learn something new everyday. I guess should change my username...

[PIT]

QV for the price is ok, but there's definately alot better gear out there.

[kane.d3]

Originally posted by PIT
QV for the price is ok, but there's definately alot better gear out there.

What gear is better?

[Shear_Madness]

Originally posted by kane.d3
What gear is better?

Any human grade gear.

[Lift Chief]

Originally posted by kane.d3
What gear is better?

Uh, a lot.

[kane.d3]

Originally posted by Lift Chief
Uh, a lot.

Uh, could you be more specific.

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by Juice Authority
Supra
EQL
BDL
PVC

Those are all UG companies, they are not human grade!