Need Some Cycle Help

[DOA]

Hello everybody,

I need you guys to help me out here. I have juiced in the past (about 5 cycles undermy belt) and have taken a conciderable lay off from it (about 2 yrs) and have been lifting naturally. My weight has fluctuated through the years partly due to the fact that I have been inconsistant in the past, but all over with.

Here are my stats:

176lbs
14% BF
6 yrs lifting experience
23 yrs old

Here is my shopping cart:

10cc of T400 (actually about 9cc cause the never fill it to a full10)
50 tabs of A-50
100ml of Tren @ 75mg/ml
100 tabs of Nolvadex @ 10mg/tab
50ml of liquid Nolvadex @ 20mg/ml
100ml of Liquid Clomid @ 50mg/ml

I have never used Tren all though I know it can be used to build mass depending on the stack as well as hardening depending on the stack. I have never used A-50 either. My experince is mostly with Test/Deca/ Dbol and some sustonon way back in the hay day.

With what I have what do you guys propose for a good cycle for length and dosage. I will keep you guys posted on my results on a weekly basis. I would also like to do sites as well, mainly on workout days for that group. A shot in each part before the workout.

Thanks for your guys' input and hope to hearf rom you all.


DOA

[Dr_Diabolical]

5 cycles and you are only 23......not to mention you are only 176 lbs??

Looks like you need to find out more about what diet/training suits you the best first.

[DOA]

Like I said... I took serious time off and the cycle I did were short (5-6 weeks) and I started when I was 19 and stopped when I hit 21 and went clean for a while. Good enough??????????? If not oh well. I need some support on the AS I am using not and an optimal way to use not a lecture on diet/training I save that for another date and time which I already have taken care of.

[fireman]

weeks 1-7 500 mgs test week
weeks 1-5 50 mg anadrol
weeks 6-10 75 mg fina ed
week 11 clomid etc

that's the best I can do with what you got, you need more test.

[DOA]

Yeah I can get more I am thinking of Test 200mg/ml cause the T400 has got a ton of alcohol in it and it hurts a lot but I will ge some more test. How much more Test you think is needed for this to be optimal?? You call it I can get it!

DOA

[fireman]

well if you can get some t200 get 1 10 ml bottle now we have 5400 mgs of test to work with. now mix them together and we will have 9 weeks of 600 mgs test without pain.

week 1-9 600 mg test ew 2 shots a week 1ml each
week 1-5 50mg anadrol
week 6-11 75 mg fina ed
week 12 clomid

[DOA]

I hear that. that T400 is is like needle is the muscle. I REALLY appreciate this help from you. I will post a log of my cycle from day one to the end of the cycle, including post cycle. Thanks again.

DOA

[prolangtum]

This is how i Would do it:

1-10 500mg of Test (1cc of T400, 1/2 cc t200)
1-12 37.5mg ed Tren
1-6 50mg anadrol ed
13 clomid

.25mg eod of liquidex
10mg ed of nolva weeks 1-7, just to prevent IGF-1 gyno from the tren and Anadrol, which are progesterins, which in turn raise IGF-1, which can cause gyno.

[DOA]

Prolangtum,

I got some Deca from EQ you think it would be a good thing to run it with the test for weeks 1-10 and keep everything the same as it is???

DOA

[prolangtum]

save it IMO

[DOA]

So you don't think that the cycle itself minus the deca is too anabolic???

[Governor]

too anabolic??....Id go with what prolangtum said but only run the drol 5 weeks and run nolva in addition to clomid for post-cycle.

save your eq and deca. This is a fine cycle.

[swolegreaser]

I'd go with what pro said, and leave the deca and EQ out for another cycle, thats a good cycle and you should recieve some good gains on that.

[DOA]

Yeah I was reading something after I replied and it is roughly saying the same thing. Take the A-50 for 4-6 wks and the take the post cycle of nolvadex/clomid for like 3 weeks or so.

[DOA]

What's your guys' opinion on taking anti-e's when on a cycle. In other words wold you take nolvadex during the whole cycle or only when you get the gyno symptoms. Also I know that there will be massive water retention from this cycle and I was really concidering geting some femera (liquid letro) and taking that to combat the estrogen prob cause it goes straight to the source. What are your guys' view on this matter??????????

DOA