***** tits, water retention, cycle, you name it...

[AnabolicAnimal]

ok before you start reading theres a total of about 4 questions in this post, and advice on any of them is much appericated.so here goes... is there a huge difference between prop and enanate in terms of water retention? i've decided to extend my cycle to 24 weeks and feel as if enanate will be much eaiser on the wallet and glutes. but i was just wondering if there's a world of difference. i'm curently taking liquidex with the prop and have no water retention will any come about with the enanate? or will the liquidex handle that too? any comments on this will be greatly appericated thanks. and while ur at it might as well take a look at what's in store: substance/week/dose

prop 1-8 100mg eod
equipose 1-16 600mg a week
winny 1-8 50mg ed
enanate 8-18 500mg a week
tren 8-15 75mg ed
primo 15-24 100mg ed
prop 18-24 100mg eod
also taking liquidx at .8mg eod though out
*side question: i got a case of good old fasioned ***** tits too, not too bad but their diffently there, would taking nolvadex help this? i have read in musclar developement and here and there on boards that nolva can help in some cases. does anyone know what would be a good dose? 40mg ed? for how long? and would this be an estrogen over kill considering the liquidex? would there be a "rebound effect" if i took the nolva for 2 months then stoped? or would the liquidex take care of any estrogen rebound effect till after the cycle? at which point i'd of course take more nolva and other post cycle goodies. i know there's like 6questions here but i had alot of time to think about my cycle today at a 3 hour lecture in school. wish i could give some type of reward to the people that respond

[scorpion]

is there a huge difference between prop and enanate in terms of water retention?

Yes....huge difference...enanthate has a half life of approx 3-4 weeks whereas Proponate about 3-4 days

i've decided to extend my cycle to 24 weeks and feel as if enanate will be much eaiser on the wallet and glutes. but i was just wondering if there's a world of difference.

Some pp say test is test.... However, IMO, Prop is better [never used it but from research Ive done]

i'm curently taking liquidex with the prop and have no water retention will any come about with the enanate? or will the liquidex handle that too?

If any water retention comes about increase the dose of liquidex, again JMO.

side question: i got a case of good old fasioned ***** tits too, not too bad but their diffently there, would taking nolvadex help this? i have read in musclar developement and here and there on boards that nolva can help in some cases. does anyone know what would be a good dose? 40mg ed? for how long? and would this be an estrogen over kill considering the liquidex? would there be a "rebound effect" if i took the nolva for 2 months then stoped? or would the liquidex take care of any estrogen rebound effect till after the cycle? at which point i'd of course take more nolva and other post cycle goodies. i know there's like 6questions here but i had alot of time to think about my cycle today at a 3 hour lecture in school. wish i could give some type of reward to the people that respond

Once you have ***** tits...you have ***** tits....perhaps with long term treatment [6-8months] of Nolva at 20mgs would reduce the gyno. But if you have a bad case of gyno the doc is the solution

[Bustanut]

Originally posted by scorpion
Yes....huge difference...enanthate has a half life of approx 3-4 weeks whereas Proponate about 3-4 days

Regarding bloat, can you explain why this makes a difference?

Assuming you are keeping your test blood levels the same, by injecting prop often or enan not so often. If there's the same amount of test in the blood either way, you would think that the results and sides would also be the same.

I'm not denying it, I'm just curious about the mechanism involved.

[AnabolicAnimal]

well i diffently got the lil lump under the skin thing, but its' maily just fatty tissue sourding the nipple. it looks just like art artwoods(though i don't carry anywhere near his size or difination). but it's a ***** tit no doubt. but i read that nolva for like 3 months can help reduce some cases of ***** tits. just cerious as to if anyone ever tired it.

[lord humongous]

How long have you had signs of Gyno? If you catch it early enough take Nolv at 60mg a day until it goes away and keep taking 20mgs throughout postcyclr therapy. You should not have gotten the Gyno if you were running Liquidex...that is strange.

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by lord humongous
How long have you had signs of Gyno? If you catch it early enough take Nolv at 60mg a day until it goes away and keep taking 20mgs throughout postcyclr therapy. You should not have gotten the Gyno if you were running Liquidex...that is strange.

Arimidex only reduces aromatization by about 60%

[lord humongous]

60 % at what dose...I guess that's why you should always have Nolv on hand.

[prolangtum]

1mg, anything over does not supress it more than 1mg ed.