How A 40 Year-Old Can Be 21 Again...Year Round?

[Farrar]

I read this on another board posted in a topic concerning the amount of time to take off between cycles. The poster was part of a "life-long hormone replacement study". This is what he said:

The older you are the less test your body produces and the more you need gear to remain young. On average at 37 y.o. and older you need to supplement 250 mg of test depot every 10 days to have the test level of a 21 y.o. year round no cycle.

Since I am 41 years old, it seems to me, if this is true, that I would benefit from taking this dosage ONLY year round and avoiding the costly stacks and dosages.

Any thoughts on his comment?

Thanks!

Farrar

[BigD]

That's about right, IF your levels have declined to below normal, or have declined enough that you feel "older." Run-down, fatter, weaker, less sex-drive and confidence, etc. Most guys get test gel, but when it's inj. test, it's usually around 100mg/week or so. 250 e10d would be a bit high, but not too bad. Ask your doc, maybe he'll give you a script for some lovely US test cyp

[Josh]

do most US pharmacys have it in stock???

[BigD]

Probably, I know my dad has it in his office. He's a family practitioner, he has many older men on HRT... he likes to tease me with packets of test gel and vials of Upjohn enanthate... evil bastard At least he does free blood work off the record!

[Josh]

jesus i would steal it lol

[BigD]

I would but he would know it's me in a heartbeat, besides it's usually only one vial in a drawer, the rest is of course locked up There's tons of T3 and T4 though I'll just keep trying to convince him that it's better for his reputation if he gets one of his partners to prescribe it to me. That way his son is doing nothing illegal It ain't gonna happen though, not without an act of ME... I mean an act of God.

[34pumped]

im gonna run (well looking into it) running cyp during my cycle at 600mg a week then when cycle ends run cyp 200 mg a week im 34

[Farrar]

Would it need to be Test Cyp. or would Test Ent. by QV work just as well?

My interest is in that most younger guys are told to lay off AS for a while as their natural testosterones are at work. so, if I could do 250 MG of Quality Vet Test Enanthate per week, could I not see gains similar to a 21 year-old training naturally?

Back in September of 2002, my final cycle was Test Cyp at 1400 mg per week and Deca at 800 mg per week. I took a 5 month layoff because I felt I was starting to:

1. Become mentally addicted and
2. Do ever-increasingly larger cycles.

My next cycle plan is for 750 mg of QV Test Ent. per week and 600 mg of QV Equipose both for 12 weeks BUT only once I get the body fat down. Right now I am recovering from an arm surgery and am currently taking 500 mg of Test Ent only. I do consume about 300 grams of protein daily keep calories at 10 per pound and protein/carbs/fat on a 50/25/25 split.

I guess I am looking at running the minimum effective dosage for someone over 40. 1 year ago I was 232@32% BF, 5'10" tall. Now I am at 209@18.7% BF.

Is their a minimum, effective, long-term dose or is it just better to follow the "time on-time off" rule?

Thanks Guys!

Farrar

[The Old Man]

2nd post, be gentle. I'm 40. just finished a cycle. not bumped up like alot of yours, but it worked wonders for me. I'm 5'7', started at 167#, with about 12%b.f. I began by eating 3,500 calories a day. I now weigh 192#, not much bloat, no signs of gyno. my strength gains where incredible, added 35# to my bench. 50# to my squats. my size increase was and still is awesome, for a little guy. I'm 4 wks off. Getting ready for a repeat. My cycle was as follows:
wks 1-2; 200 mg prop ed

wks 3-7; 200 mg prop ed
50 mg adrol / day

wks 8-9; 200 mg deca ed

wks 10-11; 20 mg nolva
wks 12-14; 5,000 i.u. hcg e 5 days
20 mg nolva / day
10 gm creatine / day
1500 mg glucosamine chondroitin /day

this is the 3rd cycle I've ever done, any suggestions for my next.