help with first cycle

[localboyz]

weeks 1-10, 300mg. deca
weeks 1-10, 500mg. sus 250.

heard this is a great beginner cycle. my stats are 6'0, 210 lbs. about 15% bodyfat, hopefully down to 13 by time i start my cycle in a couple months.

should i up the deca to 400mg.? should i add in some dbol? im pretty prone to putting on fat, so thats why i left the dbol out. thanks for any help you guys can give me.

[fireman]

looks good just the way it is. If you don't want the dbol, don't do it. just make sure you have your nolva on hand doubt you will need it, and you have your post cycle worked out.

[prolangtum]

IMO stick with sus only, no deca or dbol

[localboyz]

why just sus? i wont get lower gains without deca??

[prolangtum]

You need to see how you react to test only, how do you know what weorks best for you if your running two compounds?

[PinCushion]

Originally posted by prolangtum
IMO stick with sus only, no deca or dbol

I agree. This is your first cycle, start off light. No sense in burning out your receptors so much on your first cycle. You should see some really nice gains with a test only at 500mg/week for 10 weeks. I don't think you would see much more by adding the Deca. Maybe 5 lbs. or so....but what's the point? I think doing that on a first cycle is doing you more bad than good. I used to be so pro-Sustanon too...but lately I've leaning more towards a "one-ester" test like Enanthate. You may want to think about doing Test Enanthate at 500mg/week for 10 weeks. Something to think about....either way, I would stick with just the test-only for this first cycle. Good luck with whatever you choose

[localboyz]

but i read that your first cycle is the best chance to get some good gains? not true?

[34pumped]

bro i gained 21 pds off of just test alone my first cycle......then my next is deca and test ...cant wait to see what happens then!!!

[HeHateMe]

Originally posted by localboyz
but i read that your first cycle is the best chance to get some good gains? not true?

true...but you don't need all that much to see fantastic results your first time around...

you could (could being the operative word) very easily gain 20 lbs or so from test only @ 400-500mg/wk IF your training, nutrition, and supplementation are up to par

there's no need to use around a gram per week...what do you do for your second cycle-2 grams? third cycle-3 grams? it'd be an insidious never-ending process...

try to gain the MOST from the LEAST...who knows, you may respond very well to lower doses. but if you start off high you'll never know...

just my 2¢

[bufflildude]

sust only or enthate only for that matter...gotta learn how your body reacts to different gear. if you take both deca and sust how are you going to know what one made you grow

buff

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by bufflildude
sust only or enthate only for that matter...gotta learn how your body reacts to different gear. if you take both deca and sust how are you going to know what one made you grow

buff

is there an echo in here?


J/K bro,
You think the same way i do

[Josh]

id pick enth bro unless u already have sust..

[bufflildude]

Originally posted by prolangtum
is there an echo in here?


J/K bro,
You think the same way i do

need to get my post #'s up...lol

buff

[Plucks]

Listen to these guys. The one line i hear here most of all is if i could do my first cycle over again i would. Start off light. When you first went to the gym you didn't throw on 4plates and start benching you found yoru groove and went with that. Same with gear, start off slow see what works and go from there. Test only is a great first, all i have read i wouldn't use deca first cycle thats one that you use later on down. Personally i wouldn't start with sus propably cyp or enthante. Start simple see what works and then move up. Bro either way you are going to see gains.

[Rome]

i agree... im taking test/fina both for the first time and i wish i knew what my strength gains were off of each one....oh well