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which is better to use post cycle? would it be ok to use nolvadex? also can i discuss prices on here?
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clomid. no prices, i don't think...The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
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I wouldnt say that for 100% of the people it is, some react not to well to clomids emotional and acne sides, so dont have any. My friend sees tracers. Some nolva only works, for some, nolva/clomid combo works best, to each his own, but clomid is good for 75% of the people out there.Originally posted by goliath.jr
clomid....I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
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Re: clomid or nolvadex post cycle?
Both. Have you read this before?Originally posted by RoiDrAgE
which is better to use post cycle? would it be ok to use nolvadex? also can i discuss prices on here?
Big Cat:
The choice of a Tamoxifen/clomiphene/spironolactone combination
The choice for a tamoxifen/Clomiphene combo is primarily because of two factors. Only one relevant study (1) came up as far as recovery after a stack of products (testosterone and nandrolone) was used for twelve weeks, utilized HCG and both clomiphene and tamoxifen to achieve a complete recovery of the HPTA to acceptable levels in 45 days. The second reason is the raging war over which is the better post-cycle drug, clomiphene or tamoxifen has lead to several conclusions. The first is that while 150 mg of clomiphene and 20 mg of tamoxifen have lead to roughly a similar increase in LH levels (17) , but that with the high dosing of clomiphene over time there are certain disadvantages. Such as that it may damage eyesight and may act as a weak estrogen (18) in undesirable places (like the pituitary). So using tamoxifen alongside it will allow us to lower the dose and decrease the chance of these side-effects and add the distinct benefit that Tamoxifen (being the stronger of the two) will prevent the clomiphene from exerting any much influence at the pituitary, and that it will increase LH responsiveness to GnRH (17) where Clomiphene does not. Clomiphene is still used as it seems to offer other advantages, such as an increase in SHBG (19), which may seem like a bad thing at first, but which may decrease androgen-related negative feedback and may thus be in our advantage.The juice is loose!!!Comment
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wow, I actually agree with the pompous prick, err, i mean BigCat on this one.I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
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clomid works best for me, but when i use hcg and than clomid my nuts come back faster. Clomid's only side i get is friggen acne, bad too.Comment
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i feel like a snivling little ***** on clomid, lol. i cry during stupid movies and such. i hate that stuff...The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
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i dont know how easily i can access clomid but i know i can def get nolva... would it be cool to use just nolva post-cycle? also my friend is claiming that he has 50mg nolva which i never heard of, have u guys?Comment
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personally i've always had used clomid or clomid/hcg combo, never even did nolva so i cant say from experiance. If it was me and nolva was the only thing u had that i would do that. Next time make sure u have at least some nolva plus clomid or hcg for post, just a thought also not a flame.
I have heard from a source of 50mg nolva but dont know where from and even if i did cant tell u lol...maybe if u put up a pic we can tell you if its legit or not.Comment
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He may be pompous but when it comes to post-cycle recovery and the use of Anti-e's and HCG he knows his shit.Originally posted by prolangtum
wow, I actually agree with the pompous prick, err, i mean BigCat on this one.The juice is loose!!!Comment
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I have heard of 40 mg nolva's. They are called Nolvadex-D. I have never heard of 50 mg dosages.
I used clomid alone. After a 12 week test prop/fina cycle, I took 100 mg ed for 7 days followed by 50 mg ed for 7 days. Two weeks after that, I had my test levels checked and they came back in the middle of the normal range (i.e. HPTA recovered).
It didn't take 45 days to recover and I suffered no crash but maybe I was just lucky......
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How many of you guys get acne from post cycle clomid?Comment
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right here, a damm ton, its so frikkin obvious for everybody to know. People think more that i'm jucing when on post clomid than when i'm actually on. DAMM ACNE!!Comment
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that sucks!! I'd almost rather stay my same size than get bigger and get acne along with itComment
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it goes away shortly afterward though...Originally posted by josh_323i
that sucks!! I'd almost rather stay my same size than get bigger and get acne along with itThe burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
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