Joining dark side, need advice

[short-t]

what up bros, i am about to start my first cycle in two weeks. Stats are 5'5'', 160lbs. 7%bf 21 yrs old, and have been training for 6 years. I want to gain about 15 lbs and keep bf about the same. How does this cycle look?

Weeks 1-10 QV Deca 300mgs each week
QV Cyp 200mgs each week

Weeks 13-16 Clomid therapy



I don't want to take too much b/c this is my first cycle and I am not a big guy. Do you guys think I can get the gains i am looking for. Any advice would help. Thanks.

[rollon]

You are going to hear......just do test for a firs cycle. Which I agree......you want to know how you react to test by itself then use other compounds. Then again....I'll just let the vets do the talkin

[colby]

I'd always recommend dbol, especially at first, those quick gains will excite you. 20 mg dbol and some deca would make an awesome newbie cycle, and is even good for advanced men, with larger doses.

[Damonic]

do 500 mg a week of test and 20-40 mg of dbol per day. Save the deca for cycle # 2

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by colby
I'd always recommend dbol, especially at first, those quick gains will excite you. 20 mg dbol and some deca would make an awesome newbie cycle, and is even good for advanced men, with larger doses.

Deca and dbol, not a good cycle IMO, no test natural or exo. Not good for mood, libido, nor gains.

Save cash, buy two bottles of Test, run around 300-350mg per week for 10 weeks. You need to see how you react to test only. Next cycle, introduce Deca or EQ. Dbol is not needed. I really would stray away from orals. First cycle, just a decent dose of Test, and plenty of food. Dotn be afraid of a little fat, i would try to get above 10% the muscle gains will make up for the added fat, and you can always cut after you recover post cycle, as it seems you have a fast metabolism.

[MYRICK]

dude dont rundeca and dbol together ur first cycle and even after that dont run deca and dbol unless ur running test as well id say test 500mgs a week for 10 weeks just my .02

[scorpion]

Deca and dbol, not a good cycle IMO, no test natural or exo. Not good for mood, libido, nor gains.

Save cash, buy two bottles of Test, run around 300-350mg per week for 10 weeks. You need to see how you react to test only. Next cycle, introduce Deca or EQ. Dbol is not needed. I really would stray away from orals. First cycle, just a decent dose of Test, and plenty of food. Dotn be afraid of a little fat, i would try to get above 10% the muscle gains will make up for the added fat, and you can always cut after you recover post cycle, as it seems you have a fast metabolism.

Listen to this..........VERY GOOD ADVISE

[rado]

Re: Joining dark side, need advice

Originally posted by short-t
what up bros, i am about to start my first cycle in two weeks. Stats are 5'5'', 160lbs. 7%bf 21 yrs old, and have been training for 6 years. I want to gain about 15 lbs and keep bf about the same. How does this cycle look?

Weeks 1-10 QV Deca 300mgs each week
QV Cyp 200mgs each week

Weeks 13-16 Clomid therapy



I don't want to take too much b/c this is my first cycle and I am not a big guy. Do you guys think I can get the gains i am looking for. Any advice would help. Thanks.

IMO you need to add TEST(Nice gear of choice though:p)...Add the test, drop the cyp and deca and add test and eq, great for any newbie IMHO....test-500mg, eq-400mg a week for both, and then do your post recovery, good luck...


and welcome to FG kid, I hate the avatar though

[Iceburg]

Re: Joining dark side, need advice

Originally posted by short-t
what up bros, i am about to start my first cycle in two weeks. Stats are 5'5'', 160lbs. 7%bf 21 yrs old, and have been training for 6 years. I want to gain about 15 lbs and keep bf about the same. How does this cycle look?

Weeks 1-10 QV Deca 300mgs each week
QV Cyp 200mgs each week

Weeks 13-16 Clomid therapy



I don't want to take too much b/c this is my first cycle and I am not a big guy. Do you guys think I can get the gains i am looking for. Any advice would help. Thanks.

Stick with what you got there Bro ....

I think those are very resonable doses for a first cycle. 300 deca and 200 test - may need a little more test but I think this will be fine .... you'll still grow like a mofo on that.

Good Luck.

[conger]

Some of you guys are saying "add test". I'm a little confused cause I thought "cyp" was test.

[Josh]

Originally posted by conger
Some of you guys are saying "add test". I'm a little confused cause I thought "cyp" was test.

his dose is a little low but they mean add more

[short-t]

Thanks a lot for all your replys. I am probably going to do cyp 400mgs/week. I already bought the Deca though and will not be able to do another cycle till next summer when this one is finished. should i hold on to the Deca? thanks guys

[bigjim33]

Originally posted by short-t
Thanks a lot for all your replys. I am probably going to do cyp 400mgs/week. I already bought the Deca though and will not be able to do another cycle till next summer when this one is finished. should i hold on to the Deca? thanks guys

do the cyp at 400mg/wk 1-10 and i would use the deca like you had above for 10 weeks. have clomid for post cycle and have nolva on hand incase of gyno.

[bowbow]

Now your cycle looks good at 400mg of cyp and yes I would use your deca as you have it for 10 weeks.

[short-t]

Thanks a lot guys. Any more advice. some are telling me to take the deca and just up the cyp. Is this enough deca to give me gyno. 300mgs/week. or should i drop the deca. Thanks