ok i need your help with my girl

[BouncersBabe]

Originally posted by alittlewhiteboy
I don't get why girls have s cuh a problem with AS. . .

Because they don't do research, they take advice from the media, and they think you are an addict like any other crack head.

Tim~your absolute best bet is to get her on this board. Dr's are definitely not going to give her the information that you want her to hear. If she is openminded, she will do her own research and form her own opinions. There are many smart, smart women on this board. Soooo much information for her to learn.

[tinytim]

well i have signd her up on the fourm her name is Tinytim'sGirl ...now im just trying to get her to post questions on here...i don tknow what she is waiting on ....well this is what she has had to say in return so far
she sent this today what do ya all think:

Editor's note: This is the first of an eight-week series of articles
examining the effects of commonly abused substances on athletic performance
and overall health.
There should not be a controversy over anabolic steroid use in athletics --
non-medical use of anabolic steroids is illegal and banned by most, if not
all, major sports organizations. Still, some athletes persist in taking
them, believing that these substances provide a competitive advantage. But
beyond the issues of popularity or legality is the fact that anabolic
steroids can cause serious physical and psychological side effects.

In light of these hazards, measures to curtail the use of anabolic steroids
are escalating. One of the nation's foremost authorities on steroid use, Dr.
Gary Wadler, is part of a concerted effort to educate the public about the
dangers of anabolic steroids. Dr. Wadler, a New York University School of
Medicine professor and lead author of the book Drugs and the Athlete, serves
as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Justice on anabolic-androgenic
steroid use. He has also won the International Olympic Committee President's
Prize for his work in the area of performance-enhancing drugs in competitive
sports. He joined us to address the issue of steroids and sports.


What are anabolic steroids?
Anabolic steroids -- or more precisely, anabolic-androgenic steroids -- are
the synthetic derivatives of the naturally occurring male anabolic hormone
testosterone. Both anabolic and androgenic have origins from the Greek:
anabolic, meaning "to build," and androgenic, meaning "masculinizing."
Testosterone's natural androgenic effects trigger the maturing of the male
reproductive system in puberty, including the growth of body hair and the
deepening of the voice. The hormone's anabolic effect helps the body retain
dietary protein, which aids in the development of muscles. "Although there
are many types of steroids with varying degrees of anabolic and androgenic
properties, it's the anabolic property of steroids that lures athletes,"
says Dr. Wadler. "They take them to primarily increase muscle mass and
strength."


How are steroids taken?
Steroids can be taken orally or they can be injected. Those that are
injected are broken down into additional categories, those that are very
long-lasting and those that last a shorter time. In recent years, use has
shifted to the latter category -- shorter-lasting, water-soluble injections.
"The reason for that is that the side effects associated for the oral form
were discovered to be especially worrisome for the liver,"says Dr. Wadler.
"But the injectable steroids aren't free of side-effects either. There is no
free ride and there is a price to be paid with either form."



Who takes anabolic steroids and why?
It is not only the football player or weightlifter or sprinter who may be
using anabolic steroids. Nor is it only men. White- and blue-collar workers,
females and, most alarmingly, adolescents take steroids -- all linked by the
desire to hopefully look, perform and feel better, regardless of the
dangers.

Anabolic steroids are designed to mimic the bodybuilding traits of
testosterone. Most healthy males produce less than 10 milligrams of
testosterone a day. Females also produce testosterone but in minute amounts.
Some athletes however, may use up to hundreds of milligrams a day, far
exceeding the normally prescribed daily dose for legitimate medical
purposes. Anabolic steroids do not improve agility, skill or cardiovascular
capacity.


What are the health hazards of anabolic steroids?
"There can be a whole panoply of side effects, even with prescribed doses,"
says Dr. Wadler. "Some are visible to the naked eye and some are internal.
Some are physical, others are psychological. With unsupervised steroid use,
wanton 'megadosing' or stacking (using a combination of different steroids),
the effects can be irreversible or undetected until it's too late." Also, if
anabolic steroids are injected, transmitting or contracting HIV and
Hepatitis B through shared needle use is a very real concern.



Additionally, Dr. Wadler stresses that "unlike almost all other drugs, all
steroid based hormones have one unique characteristic -- their dangers may
not be manifest for months, years and even decades. Therefore, long after
you gave them up you may develop side effects."


Physical side effects

Studies show that, over time, anabolic steroids can indeed take a heavy toll
on a person's health. The abuse of oral or injectable steroids is associated
with higher risks for heart attacks and strokes, and the abuse of most oral
steroids is associated with increased risk for liver problems. Steroid
abusers who share needles or use nonsterile techniques when they inject
steroids are at risk for contracting dangerous infections, such as HIV/AIDS,
hepatitis B and C, and bacterial endocarditis.

Anabolic steroid abuse can also cause undesirable body changes. These
include breast development and genital shrinking in men, masculinization of
the body in women, and acne and hair loss in both sexes.

These and other effects of steroid abuse are discussed in this Research
Report, which is one of a series of reports on drugs of abuse. NIDA produces
this series to increase understanding of drug abuse and addiction and the
health effects associated with taking drugs.

We hope that this compilation of scientific information on anabolic steroids
will help the public recognize the risks of steroid abuse.


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Some anabolic steroids are taken orally, others are injected
intramuscularly, and still others are provided in gels or creams that are
rubbed on the skin. Doses taken by abusers can be 10 to 100 times higher
than the doses used for medical conditions.

Steroid abusers typically "stack" the drugs, meaning that they take two or
more different anabolic steroids, mixing oral and/or injectable types and
sometimes even including compounds that are designed for veterinary use.
Abusers think that the different steroids interact to produce an effect on
muscle size that is greater than the effects of each drug individually, a
theory that has not been tested scientifically.

Often, steroid abusers also "pyramid" their doses in cycles of 6 to 12
weeks. At the beginning of a cycle, the person starts with low doses of the
drugs being stacked and then slowly increases the doses. In the second half
of the cycle, the doses are slowly decreased to zero. This is sometimes
followed by a second cycle in which the person continues to train but
without drugs. Abusers believe that pyramiding allows the body time to
adjust to the high doses and the drug-free cycle allows the body's hormonal
system time to recuperate. As with stacking, the perceived benefits of
pyramiding and cycling have not been substantiated scientifically.



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What are the health
consequences of
steroid abuse?


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Possible Health Consequences of Anabolic Steroid Abuse
Hormonal system
men
infertility
breast development
shrinking of the testicles
women
enlargement of the clitoris
excessive growth of body hair
both sexes
male-pattern baldness
Musculoskeletal system

short stature
tendon rupture
Cardiovascular system

heart attacks
enlargement of the heart's left ventricle
Liver

cancer
peliosis hepatis
Skin

acne and cysts
oily scalp
Infection

HIV/AIDS
hepatitis
Psychiatric effects

homicidal rage
mania
delusions

Anabolic steroid abuse has been associated with a wide range of adverse side
effects ranging from some that are physically unattractive, such as acne and
breast development in men, to others that are life threatening, such as
heart attacks and liver cancer. Most are reversible if the abuser stops
taking the drugs, but some are permanent.

Most data on the long-term effects of anabolic steroids on humans come from
case reports rather than formal epidemiological studies. From the case
reports, the incidence of life-threatening effects appears to be low, but
serious adverse effects may be under-recognized or under-reported. Data from
animal studies seem to support this possibility. One study found that
exposing male mice for one-fifth of their lifespan to steroid doses
comparable to those taken by human athletes caused a high percentage of
premature deaths.

Hormonal system

Steroid abuse disrupts the normal production of hormones in the body,
causing both reversible and irreversible changes. Changes that can be
reversed include reduced sperm production and shrinking of the testicles
(testicular atrophy). Irreversible changes include male-pattern baldness and
breast development (gynecomastia). In one study of male bodybuilders, more
than half had testicular atrophy, and more than half had gynecomastia.
Gynecomastia is thought to occur due to the disruption of normal hormone
balance. In the female body, anabolic steroids cause masculinization. Breast
size and body fat decrease, the skin becomes coarse, the clitoris enlarges,
and the voice deepens. Women may experience excessive growth of body hair
but lose scalp hair. With continued administration of steroids, some of
these effects are irreversible.

Musculoskeletal system

Rising levels of testosterone and other sex hormones normally trigger the
growth spurt that occurs during puberty and adolescence. Subsequently, when
these hormones reach certain levels, they signal the bones to stop growing,
locking a person into his or her maximum height.

When a child or adolescent takes anabolic steroids, the resulting
artificially high sex hormone levels can signal the bones to stop growing
sooner than they normally would have done.

Cardiovascular system

Steroid abuse has been associated with cardiovascular diseases (CVD),
including heart attacks and strokes, even in athletes younger than 30.
Steroids contribute to the development of CVD, partly by changing the levels
of lipoproteins that carry cholesterol in the blood. Steroids, particularly
the oral types, increase the level of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) and
decrease the level of high-density lipoprotein (HDL). High LDL and low HDL
levels increase the risk of atherosclerosis, a condition in which fatty
substances are deposited inside arteries and disrupt blood flow. If blood is
prevented from reaching the heart, the result can be a heart attack. If
blood is prevented from reaching the brain, the result can be a stroke.

Steroids also increase the risk that blood clots will form in blood vessels,
potentially disrupting blood flow and damaging the heart muscle so that it
does not pump blood effectively.

Liver

Steroid abuse has been associated with liver tumors and a rare condition
called peliosis hepatis, in which blood-filled cysts form in the liver. Both
the tumors and the cysts sometimes rupture, causing internal bleeding.

Skin

Steroid abuse can cause acne, cysts, and oily hair and skin.

Infection

Many abusers who inject anabolic steroids use nonsterile injection
techniques or share contaminated needles with other abusers. In addition,
some steroid preparations are manufactured illegally under non-sterile
conditions. These factors put abusers at risk for acquiring life-threatening
viral infections, such as HIV and hepatitis B and C. Abusers also can
develop infective endocarditis, a bacterial illness that causes a
potentially fatal inflammation of the inner lining of the heart. Bacterial
infections also can cause pain and abscess formation at injection sites.

[buckshot]

here are a few of the warnings on a bottle of sudafed....
higher doses cause nervousness,dizziness or sleeplessness,do not take this product for more than 7 days,do not take if you have heart disease,high blood preasure,thyroid disease,diabetes,or difficulty in urination due to enlargement of the prostate gland.....yada yada.sounds like some dangerous stuff!yet milloins of poeple have no problems taking it.if steroids are so dangerous it would not be administered to the millions of people on HRT worldwide.is your girl on the pill?well then she would be guilty of hormone manipulation...hmm you dont hear the media ranting about the dangers of birth control pills,and the increased risk of aids and std's associated with the pill. i read a study that stated that one of every three people who walk through the door at your gym have used steroids at on time or another.look at all the buff kids on mtv spring break parties,you think they are natural...hardly! sometimes you have to put down the medical studies and use common sense...if all the media and government propaganda was true then our emergency rooms would be overflowing with heart attack and stroke victims.in all reality when was the last time you heard of a twenty something steroid user in your town having a heart attack?...if you are semi-responsible you should have no problems with a few reasonable cycles.

[warpalien]

its real simple. did you know that soy protein can cause gyno? yup it has estrogen. but wait, soy protein is so good for you. every damn thing in the world has a good and bad side, and unfortunatly everything's bad side alawys gets the sun for some reason. we are so concerned with bad bad bad we over look the fact that maybe its only in extreme doses, and that the tests that those results were formed from, were not done on your body. take it slow, take it small, and feel the waters. make sure its not too cold before you go skinny dipping. do your studies, find the side effects, find out about other drugs you should take with your cycle, and post cycle, and go to a doctor for a checkup for your levels. if you do it properly, you are ok. problem is most people do them, dont get checked up, and over do it. its no wonder they end up with health problems. ciggerettes are legal, but everyone and there mom knows how many bad side effects there are. yet everyone knows if you limit your use and dont over do it, 90% of the time if you cut it out after smoking your teens/early 20s you wont have any long term side effects. keep your cycles in control, and you'll be fine.

[DOUBLE J]

One thought. It`s great that you and your EX is working things out, but there seems to be some history of not working things out. aka EX. Becareful in disclosing information that could be repeated and brought out if love goes sour.
I really do hate to mention it but it would`nt be a first. GOODLUCK Though.

[Dark Stalker]

One thought. It`s great that you and your EX is working things out, but there seems to be some history of not working things out. aka EX. Becareful in disclosing information that could be repeated and brought out if love goes sour.

VERY strong point !

[Tinytim'sGirl]

thanks for the love advice boys....i still think honesty is the best way to go and that he was right in discussing this with me. had i found out down the road that it was something he was keeping from me, that would be bad.