Tell me if you think this is a good cycle

[swolegreaser]

BB, why not do a winnie/tren combo for wks 9-12, or just tren or just winnie for the last weeks. therefore the bloat wont be there when he finshes and the winnie and/or tren will help him maintain his gains and as well as cut down his BF.

[Billy_Bathgate]

35mg dbol isnt going to bloat him much more than what he already is with test and deca

i doubt he is cutting so why would he even want winny

tren he could..but he is already running deca

dbol or prop suits best. ive done with dbol before and its a great way to finish

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by Billy_Bathgate

tren he could..but he is already running deca

I never understood this, Test and dbol are estrogenic, but everyone runs them together

[BigD]

You can combat estrogen sides, you can't really combat the progesterone sides. So people don't run fina/deca together usually. I did it, had no probs, but I'm not gyno prone in any way, I don't use anti-e's at all either

[Billy_Bathgate]

Big D answered

but I will say, just cause you dont get gyno doesnt mean that estrogen isnt causeing you harm....hope you check your BP alot on cycle

[prolangtum]

You can control estrogen gyno with nolva. Progetserone does not directly cause gyno. It raises IGF-1, which can cause gyno. Tell my nipples progesterone causes gyno, when i ran drol/deca/tren all at the same time.

[Billy_Bathgate]

So do I. Tren and deca is nice, but I know how Ill handle it.

I wouldnt advise it to someone thats not as experienced to how their body deals with it yet.