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  • #16
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    Originally posted by guns01 View Post
    good call mountain i forgot to mention the tbol. all the benefits of dbol without the bloat and undesirable side effects. that is the true def of best of both worlds if you are looking for a minor bump to kick start a run
    Thank bro, it's easy to forget for me because it was so hard to get for a long time, For me it's only been fairly recently that it has been conveniently available. I like tbol a great deal though. You said it exactly the way I would describe it. " all the benefits of dbol without the bloat and undesirable side effects." It's a great alternative to winni to avoid the joint pain when I'm powerlifting. Sometimes winni is a bit much for lifting heavy unless I add deca to the mix.

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    • #17
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      Thanks for the advice. I am gonna do 50 mg everyday for 6 weeks with the sust700 and eq600 wk. Hoping to add 12-15 lbs of quality muscle in the next 20 weeks. 💪🔫


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      • #18
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        I cap mine at 100 and take it in the AM, would be better to slit the dose but it is hard to find time. Never had problems sleeping with that dose in the AM, though I am pretty good at falling asleep.

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by Mountain Monster View Post
          Thank bro, it's easy to forget for me because it was so hard to get for a long time, For me it's only been fairly recently that it has been conveniently available. I like tbol a great deal though. You said it exactly the way I would describe it. " all the benefits of dbol without the bloat and undesirable side effects." It's a great alternative to winni to avoid the joint pain when I'm powerlifting. Sometimes winni is a bit much for lifting heavy unless I add deca to the mix.
          Don't forget the tbol bro! Must have for that summer cycle. You got a lot of great advice here. For me I love drol, tbol, dbol. Never been a big winny fan. For me to notice it I pop 50 -100mg 1 hour pre work out. Otherwise I just get achy joints and dont notice it. Of course when you get used to 50 -100mg of drol a day its hard to notice any other orals, haha. Don't worry bro, you will get your 15lbs of lean muscle going 20 weeks of those amounts of sust and eq. Just watch your diet, that will be your key to reaching that goal of 15 lean pounds.

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by Hydro09 View Post
            Thanks for the advice. I am gonna do 50 mg everyday for 6 weeks with the sust700 and eq600 wk. Hoping to add 12-15 lbs of quality muscle in the next 20 weeks. ����


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            Btw, how are you dosing your sust at 700mg a week? 100mg per day?

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            • #21
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              Taking sust 350 2x a week with eq 300 2x a week. Basically 2cc injections 1 cc of each, every 4 days. Less injections, less pain! I try to keep my doses on the moderate side. I've actually had good gains in the past with 15-20mg of dbol a day. To each their own, but much higher than that, and most of my gains are just bloat and not solid muscle. We are all diff though.


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              • #22
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                If you can handle more frequent injects you will probably see better results from your sust at 175mg eod. But if you don't want the frequent injections I understand. There was a time when I tried to minimize as well. Just my $.02 bro.

                Originally posted by Hydro09 View Post
                Taking sust 350 2x a week with eq 300 2x a week. Basically 2cc injections 1 cc of each, every 4 days. Less injections, less pain! I try to keep my doses on the moderate side. I've actually had good gains in the past with 15-20mg of dbol a day. To each their own, but much higher than that, and most of my gains are just bloat and not solid muscle. We are all diff though.


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                • #23
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                  I def appreciate the advice. Enjoying learning as much as I can. I'm no where near an expert on gear.Y would the more frequent injections work better?


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                  • #24
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                    True sustanon is comprised of 4 Testosterone compounds and is 250mg/ml
                    30mg test prop
                    60mg test Phenylpropionate
                    60mg test isocaproate
                    100mg test decanoate

                    prop and Phenylpropionate are shorter acting esters. For maximum results prop is injected ed or at least eod. Phenylpropionate should probably be a e3d inject. Isocaproate e5d probably and decanoate once a week. So to gain maximum results from your shorter esters more frequent injections are preferred. I would personally inject 100mg a day if running 700mg a week. 175mg eod will yield good results as well. Personally I think once you go e3d or longer you lose the benefits of the short ester compounds which make up 90mg of your 250mg per ml. If you aren't willing to pin more frequently test cyp or enan would be more beneficial imo.


                    Originally posted by Hydro09 View Post
                    I def appreciate the advice. Enjoying learning as much as I can. I'm no where near an expert on gear.Y would the more frequent injections work better?


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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Hydro09 View Post
                      I def appreciate the advice. Enjoying learning as much as I can. I'm no where near an expert on gear.Y would the more frequent injections work better?


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                      Maybe before I explained that I should ask what kind of sust you have. I have seen it from some labs with only 3 compounds at a 300mg per ml. Doesn't mean it's bad, but depending on the compounds used I suppose it could change my advice previously given.

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                      • #26
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                        That makes sense. I think I could handle eod. The more ya know, the more ya grow!


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                        • #27
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                          Pharmaceutical Form
                          Drug Class: Anabolic Steroid (for intramuscular injection)
                          Active Life: 15-20 days
                          Average Dose: Men 600-2000 mg/week
                          Liver Toxicity: Low
                          Aromatization rate: High
                          DHT Conversion: high
                          Decrease HPTA function: Severe
                          Anabolic/ Androgenic rate: 100:100
                          Active Substance:
                          Testosterone Decanoate 140mg/ml
                          Testosterone Phaenylpropionate 84mg/ml
                          Testosterone Propionate 42mg/ml
                          Testosterone Isocarpoate 84mg/ml




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                          • #28
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                            This is the sust I'm taking.


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                            • #29
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                              If you are good with eod I think you will be a lot happier with results. Keep us posted. Sustanon is an awesome compound bro.

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                              • #30
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                                Today is actually my day I pin. Thinking about giving eod a go. I'm not worried about the pain, I just wanna make sure I get the most bang for my buck. Thanks for the insight.


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