Bulk Or Solid Muscle...help Me Guys Here

[THE JUICE]

Help me out right here guys. I dont know whether to bulk or just go for hard solid gains.
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For bulk this is what I had in mind, this would be my third cycle:

Test 200: 400mgs/wk for 10weeks

Dbol: 35mgs/ed for 5 weeks

clomid at end
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For solid gains I really dont know what to use;

I was thinking of some test prop. , some EQ

About this one guys do u think I can gain a good amount of weight by doing a solid cycle. I never done one before. Cause Im tired of bulking up, looks cool and all but, I wanna see that skin transparent, veins popping out, cut as hell. I weigh 215 right now, wanna gain some 15 more or 20 pounds with this cycle. What do u all think?

[rude]

Yea, bro go for the hard solid gains, thats what I would do People notice that more

[Juicemonkey101]

I think it would be hard to gain 15-20 solid LEAN pounds, but, it has been done before. If i was you, with how low your bulking doses were, i would do something alond these lines.....

Test Prop 100mg EOD (350mg pw) weeks 1-8
Fina 75mg ED weeks 1-8
Clen/ECA


With that i think a "solid" 10 pounds is more than possible.

[THE JUICE]

Originally posted by Juicemonkey101
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With that i think a "solid" 10 pounds is more than possible. [/B]

would it be noticeable or nah should I go with bulk for noticeable looks. I just wanna add more size to what I have now. I still feel small even people tell me Im big. They say that cause here there arent many people who work out and when they see someone like that they stare.

[Juicemonkey101]

have you ever done Fina? and whats you cycle history like?

[THE JUICE]

Originally posted by Juicemonkey101
have you ever done Fina? and whats you cycle history like?

never taken it bro.


17 years old JUNE 1999 started at 165
Ive taken shit before but I wouldnt consider it cycleing.
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18 MAY 2000
First time I used 2 weeks of Soste= no good

Testoprim-D for one month =gained a couple of pounds added about 5lbs.
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18 TURNING 19 AROUND OCTOBER OR SO (1st cycle)
used Sostenon 250 250mg/wk 8 weeks with Stenox 15mgs/ed 4 wks
I went up to 195 but didnt take any post therapy and lost about 10 or 15 pounds of it.
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19 in December

Reforvit-B 50mgs/ed (insane used for 10weeks, thank god I still have a liver, just didnt wanna get off it) and some Brovel Deca 200mgs/wk for about 8 weeks

I went up rapidly bodyweight from 185 to 202 did post cycle therapy. Kept the weight for a while, casue I stopped lifting and eating.

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Final cycle done (my best one) I did on last year this time of the year 4/2002

I did Reforvit-B 35mgs/ed for 4 weeks
Brovel Test200 400mgs/wk for 10wks

I went from like 195 to 210 on this one, I did took clomid at the end and kept it. The suckie thing is I met my GF, so I spend time away from the gym so I lost a quite amount of size.
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Today, Ive been eating alot of high protein foods and natural for a year and gained a good amount of weight and re-got my size back maybe bigger than I was before, I wiegh 215 right now.

Thats all bro, there u got it, my roid experiences.

[Juicemonkey101]

Detailed cycle history... i like it! Honestly,i dont know if your on a budget or what not but why not run something like this...

Test Enan 600mg 1-10
D-bol 35mg ed 1-4
Fina 75mg EOD 5-12
Start clomid after last Fina shot.

That should leave you with 15-20 solid pounds. IMO dont go 400mg of Test a week again, i think you'll be dissapointed your second time around with a low dose like that.

[THE JUICE]

Originally posted by Juicemonkey101
Detailed cycle history... i like it! Honestly,i dont know if your on a budget or what not but why not run something like this...

Test Enan 600mg 1-10
D-bol 35mg ed 1-4
Fina 75mg EOD 5-12
Start clomid after last Fina shot.

That should leave you with 15-20 solid pounds. IMO dont go 400mg of Test a week again, i think you'll be dissapointed your second time around with a low dose like that.

since I did 400mgs a wk, u dont think it will do any good or what. How does 500mgs/wk sound. Bro u got a pm.

[senkizer]

You said that you went natural for a year and put on some good weight. Did you hit a plateau? If not why not just increase your calories and keep gaining weight? That would be a good bulk, but that is just what I think. I think that is great that you gained so much natural. Good luck bro.

[THE JUICE]

Originally posted by senkizer
You said that you went natural for a year and put on some good weight. Did you hit a plateau? If not why not just increase your calories and keep gaining weight? That would be a good bulk, but that is just what I think. I think that is great that you gained so much natural. Good luck bro.

I probably gained it naturally since while I was on I stretched the muscles or something. I went beyond what I had done whileon. While on I went from 195 to 210. I got off for about a year, didnt train for about 7 -9 months, didnt eat right, wento from 210-200. I started again naturally since January till now and went to 215, eating tons, training hard, I even asked for a new routine here, and it all worked good for me. I still think I can gain some more naturally but Im very impatient that I want it fast, lol. Thats why I dont go out much and stay dedicated to my goals.

[scorpion]

HARD SOLID GAINS HARD SOLID GAINS

[Billy_Bathgate]

um either cycle will give you either results

its how you diet

eat like a pig - bulk

eat your chicken and veggies - lbm

[THE JUICE]

Originally posted by Iceman
It's kinda hard though, when you have cookies staring at you in the face.....

I feel u my brother. It sucks when I got those damn cakes, cup cakes, candies, booos' etc in front of me.

[rado]

Re: Bulk Or Solid Muscle...help Me Guys Here

Originally posted by THE JUICE
Help me out right here guys. I dont know whether to bulk or just go for hard solid gains.
--------------------------------------------------------------

For bulk this is what I had in mind, this would be my third cycle:

Test 200: 400mgs/wk for 10weeks

Dbol: 35mgs/ed for 5 weeks

clomid at end
----------------------------------------------------------------
For solid gains I really dont know what to use;

I was thinking of some test prop. , some EQ

About this one guys do u think I can gain a good amount of weight by doing a solid cycle. I never done one before. Cause Im tired of bulking up, looks cool and all but, I wanna see that skin transparent, veins popping out, cut as hell. I weigh 215 right now, wanna gain some 15 more or 20 pounds with this cycle. What do u all think?

if you do it right, you can get some good clean solid gains kid. Add the Eq and throw some ECA or clen with it, have a clean diet, good training and recovery, you'll do just fine with it..