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  • #16
    Originally posted by prolangtum
    Face it, unless your seriously competing, you take steroids because your insecure about your body, and you want to augmment the genetics God gave you.
    Or if you need to be able to generate as much power as humanly possible to make a running back pay in blood for breaking into the secondary.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Drenten
      Or if you need to be able to generate as much power as humanly possible to make a running back pay in blood for breaking into the secondary.
      or to make the secondary pay blood for even trying to get in the way

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      • #18
        Originally posted by prolangtum
        I mean, we take steroids despite the risks of liver problems, kidney problems, increased bp, bad chloresterol levels, acne, prostate problems, to name a few. There are such things as good and bad cycling, but, if you had a cold, would you take medicine that had all these possible sides? Probaly not.
        I agree kinda. If you cant make gains without steroids, you have bo business taking them. Its a matter of impatience for me. I could wait 10 years pr juice and do it in 5.

        People who think they are stuck and just cant go anyfarther and NEED to take them are kinda foolish IMO. Of course we take them to look better, get bigger and strong, more ripped etc, etc...


        The exception is obviously HRT

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        • #19
          yes
          5'10
          ~190 lbs


          I like to help, but do I look like a drug ******? (The correct answer here is no) So please do not ask me for drugs.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by hummerluv
            or to make the secondary pay blood for even trying to stop the running back
            Exactly!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rado
              yes I read it...I looked good before gear(not trying to blow my head up either ok) and never needed it. If you see my pictures, those I was all natural. I posted one's when I was at 175lbs, still looked good, and I will post my 192lbs in the next couple of day's, and I still look good. I'm not trying to be all cocky or anything, but don't say some stupid ass remark like you saidI never had an issue with my body, ever. I decided to juice because I hit my max. I did everything from Pro-H, to creatine, weight gainers, etc...you name it, I did it, well I still could not get to what I wanted. Well now I'm at 192lbs and loving it. My goal is to get to 220lbs and lean up to 210-215 and stay that way, I can quit. Anything else kid?
              Don't kid yourself, kid. nobody in their right mind drives themselves to the extent we do, puts themselves through the type of training and diet we do. We all are driven by some sort of insecurity that makes us demand perfection and beyond in ourselves
              There is no substitute for experience......

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              • #22
                interesting read, bro's, and so much different reasons (?)... I for myself did w/out it for a long time. I was strong and fast and won three kickboxing championships in my twenties. Was I big? No. Did people turn heads? No.
                Now, I'm on one big ego trip. I love my (steroid) looks but I love the ability to go so hard in training even more. My motivation to train and to juice gets always a new kick when I take off my shirt at the beach and people turning heads. Why not admit it? It's a terrific feeling!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by muscle_n_blood
                  We all are driven by some sort of insecurity that makes us demand perfection and beyond in ourselves
                  I don’t buy that for a second. Insecurity is not everyone’s sole or core motivator.

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                  • #24
                    Even when I didn't know what Dbol was, I was still gettin compliments by people (tha hunnies) when I was completely natural. Yes I could live without ever juicin. Really, we are muscular, even if we don't see it with our own eyes. I thought I wasn't, but I was according to others. I've made gains in 6 months where it would probably have takin me at least 2 years. I think I could stop. Do I want to......NO. This is the choice I am making, health risks or not.

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                    • #25
                      agree with drenten. it's not always insecurity and as rado points out, he was fine before. i think in many cases it's like an adventure trip. you started, it works great and you just go on. why? because you can. it's the right of personal choice and it needs not justification...

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                      • #26
                        I take juice because it increases my red blood cell count which elongates my penis. Yes, juice makes your dick bigger while on it so why stop? I like having a big dick..
                        The juice is loose!!!

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                        • #27
                          so rado, if you're don't feel that your body needs to change at all, why are you juicing?

                          it's good, but not good enough, right? which is why you're juicing ...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by rado
                            yes I read it...I looked good before gear(not trying to blow my head up either ok) and never needed it. If you see my pictures, those I was all natural. I posted one's when I was at 175lbs, still looked good, and I will post my 192lbs in the next couple of day's, and I still look good. I'm not trying to be all cocky or anything, but don't say some stupid ass remark like you saidI never had an issue with my body, ever. I decided to juice because I hit my max. I did everything from Pro-H, to creatine, weight gainers, etc...you name it, I did it, well I still could not get to what I wanted. Well now I'm at 192lbs and loving it. My goal is to get to 220lbs and lean up to 210-215 and stay that way, I can quit. Anything else kid?
                            Why did you need to get bigger? You hit your max. Why did you sepnd money on PH, creatine etc? To get bigger stronger and look better. Are you a different person on the inside if you stay lean at 215? No. On the outside? Yes. You proved my point for me.
                            I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
                            I pray at least 6 times a day to build my soul

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rado
                              Yes I could stop, this next cycle will be my last one...
                              bro, why dont i believe you?
                              5'10
                              ~190 lbs


                              I like to help, but do I look like a drug ******? (The correct answer here is no) So please do not ask me for drugs.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by muscle_n_blood
                                Don't kid yourself, kid. nobody in their right mind drives themselves to the extent we do, puts themselves through the type of training and diet we do. We all are driven by some sort of insecurity that makes us demand perfection and beyond in ourselves
                                my insecurity didnt start getting worse until i started working out hardcore. the more you work out, you see results, and then start looking at others etc, and think i have a long way to go.

                                why did i start lifting again? when i was in 9th grade, i was 5'4, 128 lbs, and was benching over 220lbs, not bad for a scronny punk. i got so big i couldnt wipe my ass without feeling tight. got on drugs and quit. then i was out on a buddys bachler party and we were drinking and ended up arm wrestling someone and lost. dude was scronny. so i decided i had fallen behind over the years and felt i needed to catch up just to "hang" with others around me. guess its that alpha male ego thing
                                5'10
                                ~190 lbs


                                I like to help, but do I look like a drug ******? (The correct answer here is no) So please do not ask me for drugs.

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