does equipoise stunt?

[rude]

should i try it?

[rude]

bump

[Drenten]

At your age you might have the potential for some more growth. Most steroids will put an end to that, and put an end to it fairly quickly.

There are only two steroids made that have been proven to increase bone growth (assuming that you bone plates are not closed already); They are Oxandrolone and Thiomesterone.

Oxandrolone is well documented to increase bone growth in children with stunted growth, but you must consider that these are children with abnormally slow growth and they were treated well before they were close to full maturity.

This is purely speculation, but I think that using Oxandrolone (or HGH) at your age, assuming that you are very near your natural growth limit, could potentially cause abnormalities in the way the bones are ultimately formed.

Personally, I would rather not risk using something to try to increase bone growth at your age.

[rude]

good info drenten, and i actually was consedering taking oxandrolone but I could not find it when I went to mex recently.

[Billy_Bathgate]

Estrogen causes ephisial plates to close. Ever wonder why ox didnt cause it?

However, many have still grown an inch even with the most aromatizing compounds some. (I got 1/2 some how, have heard others report the same)

[rude]

really billy bathgate, do you think I should take equipoise?

[warpalien]

Originally posted by Governor
Thats true, ONLY IF your plates have closed. Some men mature into their 20's.


My girlfriend's father grew two inches when he was 22.

So you cant make a blanket statement like that.

i wish that was the case for me. i havent grown an inch over 5'10 since i was 16

[prolangtum]

They actually have used anastrozole to delay epiphyseal closure:

J Endocrinol Invest 2000 Dec;23(11):721-3

Delayed closure of epiphyseal cartilages induced by the aromatase inhibitor anastrozole. Would it help short children grow up?

Faglia G, Arosio M, Porretti S.

Institute of Endocrine Sciences, Ospedale Maggiore IRCCS, University of Milan, Italy. giovanni.faglia@excite.com

Estrogens locally generated from androgen precursors due to the action of aromatase play a main role in epiphyseal cartilage fusion. Treatment with an aromatase inhibitor (anastrozole, 1 mg/day for 3 yr) in a boy previously operated on for a hamartoma causing precocious puberty and presenting with advanced bone maturation and nearly fused epiphyseal cartilages, slowed cartilage fusion consenting a higher final stature than expected (164.4 cm vs 158.4 cm). It is suggested that treatment with aromatase inhibitors, alone or in combination with rh-GH, may also be useful in children with constitutional short stature in order to delay epiphyseal closure and improve the final height.

[prolangtum]

The results of short-term (6 months) high-dose testosterone treatment on bone age and adult height in boys of excessively tall stature.

Bramswig JH, von Lengerke HJ, Schmidt H, Schellong G.

Kinderklinik der Universitat, Munster, Federal Republic of Germany.

Forty-nine pubertal tall boys with a mean height prediction of 203.59 cm according to the Bayley-Pinneau (BP) method were treated prospectively with 500 mg testosterone-oenanthate every 2 weeks for a period of 6 months. Before therapy chronological age (CA) was 14.14 years and bone age (BA) 13.88 years using the Greulich-Pyle (GP) method. During therapy BA advanced by 1.37 years. It continued to accelerate during the 6 months following therapy with a mean delta BA/delta CA being 3.01 at 3 months and 2.24 at 6 months after therapy. The 6 months value was only slightly less than the delta BA/delta CA of 2.47 obtained during therapy. The reduction in adult height was 7.26 cm or 50.8% of the predicted further growth in 12 boys with a long-term follow up of 2.5 years. This is similar to the 51.6% or 9.63 cm observed in 50 boys with a long-term follow up after 14.25 month treatment until a BA of 17 years or more. It is concluded that in the majority of cases high-dose testosterone therapy in boys of tall stature can be limited to a 6-month treatment period. Reassessment of the height prediction after a 6-month interval without therapy should define those patients who have to resume treatment because of their remaining excessive growth potential.

[rude]

good post prolangtum Maybe I should mix a little bit of test with equipoise and play the odds.

[rude]

Or should I see a doctor?