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    transdermals

    so I have been looking at transdermals and making them, sciences behind them.. etc.. Alot of threads and posts are old, alot are years old. So can we discuss them up to date and get some of the knowledge we have, to educate everyone who has though of doing this PLS. I want to make my own and see. I have heard of people making it with test e liquids, prop liquids...??? I don't know the science I'm just saying what I've heard. PLS guys, sellers or science guys chime in as I'm sure I'm not the only one who would do this!?? How can we make it? What do we need? How do we do it? This is an informative site so why not include EVERYTHING informative. Lets do this! And like me if ya want hehehe
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    Re: transdermals

    oh come on now guys... no chemists on here? nobody with knowledge on this?? a few sites out there with indepth stuff how to make and blah blah but I want it from guys I can trust.. family. somebody must know. and I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in knowing this!? like this thread if you want to know about it like me. got one like already (thanks bro).

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    • #3
      Homebrewed Transdermal Recipe

      Here is the recipe and I will explain everything after.....

      PRO-HORMONE( PH )
      PENETRATION ENHANCER( PE )
      STRATUN CORNEUM_TOP LAYER OF SKIN( SC )

      40% ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL
      15% ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE
      15% ISOPROPYL PALMITATE
      10% OLEIC ACID
      10% PROPYLENE GLYCOL
      10% DMSO
      The 15% ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE and 15% ISOPROPYL PALMITATE can be combined and just use 30% ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE...

      ISO is used as a solvent. It will help dissolve the ph into the solution. It also has some penetration properties.

      ISOPROPYL PALMITATE is used to lubricate the skin it softens it up so the skin can be penetrated easily by the ph (dries quicker and is not as oily feeling as the ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE).

      ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE is used for the same reason as the ISOPROPYL PALMITATE.

      OLEIC ACID this is a powerful penetration enhancer. It works with the lipids in the skin to let the ph go through.

      PROPYLENE GLYCOL this stuff is oily. What it does is keeps the moisture from leaving the skin. The more moisture the easier it is for there ph to penetrate. NO you can't just use water....

      DMSO man I love this stuff. It is the most powerful penetration enhancer that is out there that is safe. This addition puts us over the top. This is a must in the solution. If you have sensitive skin this may irritate it but don't you want to get by. If it irritates too much go to 5% and add 5% to ISO. Also the more pure your DMSO is, The less "Garlic" smell you will have.

      If you don't like the smell of it then you could substitute 1-2% d-limenene for 1-2% of PROPYLENE GLYCOL. BUT I like to just put in 2ml of scented oil. Go with the oil. Don't screw with the recipe......!!!!!!!!!

      Other factors that help penetration....
      1. Rub the ph on vigorously.. RUB HARD
      2. Keep the solution mg/ml low .The less ph in the more surface area the better penetration.
      3. Try to wait until dry to put clothing on. Hopefully for you it is only 5 mins max
      4. If you can remove hair where ph is being applied. The ph can attach to the hair and thus not go into your skin. SHAVE IT OFF...

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      • #4
        ^i am a huge believer if DMSO. I use it with arnica for injuries, muscle soreness, and tendon stimulation.

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        • #5
          Re: transdermals

          thanks for the info bro! now the next question... where do I get what I need?? I knew someone would know something!

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          • #6
            Re: transdermals

            I copied the link from bass killers site, this is his recipe. I dont want to take his thunder.

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            • #7
              Re: transdermals

              bump for dw
              Veritas Vos Liberabit

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              • #8
                Re: transdermals

                Thanks Baby1
                OK lets say I use test base in place of the pro-hormone. I want to get test levels to around 600 to 700. Topical at best are absorbed 10%. What do I need to dissolve the base and how much base to carrier? How much do I need each day?
                I do not mind bro science because it is better than no science.

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                • #9
                  Re: transdermals

                  Originally posted by colochine View Post
                  Homebrewed Transdermal Recipe


                  Here is the recipe and I will explain everything after.....

                  PRO-HORMONE( PH )
                  PENETRATION ENHANCER( PE )
                  STRATUN CORNEUM_TOP LAYER OF SKIN( SC )

                  40% ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL
                  15% ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE
                  15% ISOPROPYL PALMITATE
                  10% OLEIC ACID
                  10% PROPYLENE GLYCOL
                  10% DMSO
                  The 15% ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE and 15% ISOPROPYL PALMITATE can be combined and just use 30% ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE...

                  ISO is used as a solvent. It will help dissolve the ph into the solution. It also has some penetration properties.

                  ISOPROPYL PALMITATE is used to lubricate the skin it softens it up so the skin can be penetrated easily by the ph (dries quicker and is not as oily feeling as the ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE).

                  ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE is used for the same reason as the ISOPROPYL PALMITATE.

                  OLEIC ACID this is a powerful penetration enhancer. It works with the lipids in the skin to let the ph go through.

                  PROPYLENE GLYCOL this stuff is oily. What it does is keeps the moisture from leaving the skin. The more moisture the easier it is for there ph to penetrate. NO you can't just use water....

                  DMSO man I love this stuff. It is the most powerful penetration enhancer that is out there that is safe. This addition puts us over the top. This is a must in the solution. If you have sensitive skin this may irritate it but don't you want to get by. If it irritates too much go to 5% and add 5% to ISO. Also the more pure your DMSO is, The less "Garlic" smell you will have.

                  If you don't like the smell of it then you could substitute 1-2% d-limenene for 1-2% of PROPYLENE GLYCOL. BUT I like to just put in 2ml of scented oil. Go with the oil. Don't screw with the recipe......!!!!!!!!!

                  Other factors that help penetration....
                  1. Rub the ph on vigorously.. RUB HARD
                  2. Keep the solution mg/ml low .The less ph in the more surface area the better penetration.
                  3. Try to wait until dry to put clothing on. Hopefully for you it is only 5 mins max
                  4. If you can remove hair where ph is being applied. The ph can attach to the hair and thus not go into your skin. SHAVE IT OFF...
                  great info but need some more detail.

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                  • #10
                    Re: transdermals

                    +BUMP+

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                    • #11
                      Re: transdermals

                      What I've been doing is snatching up raw powders, and then buying "Salvo" from iron legion. I figured since they have a proven carrier, I may as well not reinvent the wheel until I've experimented a bit and get a feel for it.

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                      • #12
                        Re: transdermals

                        thanks boot. To get test levels up around 600 what do you recomend?

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                        • #13
                          Re: transdermals

                          I tried TNE in DMSO before. I saw no benefit at all that I could tell from the test. (dmso seems to soothe strains and bruises) I think the powder must be ground down as fine as possible but even then absorption is limited compared to injectable.
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