how much test and how long

[Josh]

i agree with these guys get some test and ldex

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by vibrantred94gt
I understand that, but if I all of a sudden cut calories and carbs at the end of a cycle, I will loose gains. I figured the winny would solve that problem.

Explain? Dont drop cals all the sudden either, no amount of steroids will prevent muscle loss like this, gradually lower them over 2-3 weeks. Winny is nto magical, 400-500mg of Test is pelnty to hold onto muscle.

[bigpimpc]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Drop the winy and tren, use 400mg of Test per week for 10 weeks.

i agree! i got great results from 400mg a week for 5 weeks on my first cycle

[vibrantred94gt]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Explain? Dont drop cals all the sudden either, no amount of steroids will prevent muscle loss like this, gradually lower them over 2-3 weeks. Winny is nto magical, 400-500mg of Test is pelnty to hold onto muscle.

Don't have to really drop cals, but wanted to do the ckd (no carbs....I'm sure you know hwat ckd) I guess that would be the same thing.

I just thought that if I could stop gaining after 8 weeks, and use the winny to help maintain for 4-5 weeks while on ckd diet, then while on clomid go at maintance or a little above and stay there for a month or more, depending on where the 5 weeks of ckd got me.

I am on ckd right now, 3rd week and have lost a solid 12 pounds or fat. I don't plan on gaining that much more fat while on this cycle.

[prolangtum]

Winstrol is just another steroid, it holds no special dieting properties over test.

[AnotherUser]

Just another EXPENSIVE steroid I don't think I'll ever use anything besides test and fina again

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by AnotherUser
Just another EXPENSIVE steroid I don't think I'll ever use anything besides test and fina again

The two most cost effective/ results producing steroids now, especially since you can make and buy them for your cattle

[vibrantred94gt]

So after I bulk up on fina and test. HOw hsould I go about cutting. What I was tring to do here is doing a bulking/cutting cycle in one.

I don't want to cut after building all this muscle without using the juice.

I mean, isn't that what a cutting cycle is all about?

I just figured I would combine the 2.

NOt saying that diet/cardio won't be in check. I have been studying dieting for the last 6 months and know how to eat. I love doing cardio so that is not an issue.