how much test and how long

[vibrantred94gt]

I am going to do a test/fina/winny cycle and want to know how long I should run the test for.

I will be running fina wks 1-8 75 ed

test.....THis is where I need help. Should I run 250 a week for 10 weeks or 300 for 8 weeks?

Then I will run the winny for wks 9 to 13 or 14. then clomid.

This is a first cycle so I don't want to be running loads of test, but do you think 250-300 is enough?

[prolangtum]

Drop the winy and tren, use 400mg of Test per week for 10 weeks.

[vibrantred94gt]

Why woudl you say that?

[Dr_Diabolical]

because it is your first cycle, noone needs fina in thier first cycle.
Test only could give you 20-30 lbs.

Once you go big, you cant go back down.

[prolangtum]

You need to see how your body reacts to the base of every cycle, TEST. Ohter drugs come later. Just look around, Test is the base of every cycle, as it should be. Your body doesnt make tren or winny, it makes test. Not to mention there is not need in this stage of the game to put your liver up to a 17aa like winny. Tren is very strong, 75mg ed is a otn for a newbie, not to mention you havent done one injection, yet you plan on injecting everyday? Get the hang od once or twice a week first.

[vibrantred94gt]

I learn quick, I thought about doin 50 ed, but the guys at ar seem to think that 75 ed would be alright. I havn't asked this question personally, but have read many a post to nebies doing 75 ed.

[vibrantred94gt]

By the way, was someone going answer my question?

[got_pinz]

well you can do what you want but agreed you dont need anything else than just a basic test cycle...250mg every 4 days would do pretty good!!

[vibrantred94gt]

well, I will be doing test once a week. SHOuld I do it for 8 weeks at 300 a week or 10 weeks at 250 a week? I will be starting the winny after my last week of fina (week 8)

[got_pinz]

do 500mg 2 x a week for 10 and save your fina and winny for another cycle...

[Dr_Diabolical]

Originally posted by vibrantred94gt
well, I will be doing test once a week. SHOuld I do it for 8 weeks at 300 a week or 10 weeks at 250 a week? I will be starting the winny after my last week of fina (week 8)

with what you stated above, go with 250 for 10 weeks.

[AnotherUser]

I would go with the tren at a minimum of 50mg ed. I did 50mg eod and never got the insane strength gains that everyone else got Next time I will be doing 75mg ed (probably with 500mg test/wk if I can locate some more for my never ending test cycle )

[vibrantred94gt]

Originally posted by saturn
I I also think you should save the winny. I only get a hard feeling with winny so I only use it at the end of a cutting cycle.

The reason I was going to take the winny is because I was going to do the ckd for the 4-5 weeks on the winny. Then after, bring calories up to a maintance level.( as soon as I start clomid therapy)

I was thinking the winny will make it so I keep my gains while on ckd diet.

Will I still get benefits from doing 250 test a week?

[prolangtum]

Yes, test will be plenty, winny wont make you hold more muscle than 400mg of test will. Diet, training, and cardio make a cutting cycle, not steroids.

[vibrantred94gt]

I understand that, but if I all of a sudden cut calories and carbs at the end of a cycle, I will loose gains. I figured the winny would solve that problem.