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  • #16
    stuff is still dirtier. esp brovel and all. but whatever. i'll stick to the human grade, thank you!

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    • #17
      what brand of human bro ? undrground or ?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by WarbirdWS6
        if i am injecting foreign substances in my body, i want the cleanest/best stuff i can get. i'll pay more personally. but i get pretty good deals on the stuff. so its not "gains" related so much....although the quality WILL help with gains if there is a big enough difference in quality vet vrs human. whether there is big enough of a diff i really don't know.
        I wish my pockets were as deep as yours! Got to do what you got to do.............. even if your paying to much $!

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        • #19
          is qv dirtier than anything else? any proof?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 34pumped
            what brand of human bro ? undrground or ?
            like i was saying, top notch stuff like organon and ICN. not uderground. i mean QV is weird, its vet but its not nasty like brovel and them. its an inbetween thing. ICN is overfilled and QV is underfilled for instance. so QV STILL isn't as good as human grade if you ask me, but i DO use the EQ. you get what you pay for is all i can say.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ARMed
              I wish my pockets were as deep as yours! Got to do what you got to do.............. even if your paying to much $!
              i get pretty good deals actually, and its not all that much more money. i'll pay for the better quality stuff any day. pharm grade vrs vet grade....and your complaining on a little cash....c'mon man!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by 34pumped
                is qv dirtier than anything else? any proof?
                no not dirty. i use QV EQ (wouldn't use the other stuff though, i don't like pain, lol).....underfilled----YES! possibly lesser quality----MAYBE! now brovel is dirty shit. i think they use piss in the formula.

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                • #23
                  Put any of it through a .22 filter and they are all the same.

                  Unfortunately, My one and only experience with QV wasnt so good. I had TE that hurt like hell and EQ that was a poor poor performer compared with the TT EQ that I had used previously. I had thought about trying the QV again but I think I will EQL a shot.

                  I'm sure it is fine and does the job well for most guys but that was my experience as well as some other bro's with QV. Would I do it again if I didnt have access to anything else? Sure.

                  This was about 8 months ago.

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                  • #24
                    well my first was with qv cyp gained 21 pds in 10 weeks and working n my next cycle now getting ideas and what brands to use qv or maybe underground

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mark_B
                      Nobody here prefers homebrewing thier shit from powders?
                      Well yes. Home lab is fun for the whole family Its kind of like a Betty Crocker "Easy Bake Oven" but different.

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                        • #27
                          I got a great price on ICN's so I stick to human grade.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by medium1
                            I got a great price on ICN's so I stick to human grade.
                            word.

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                            • #29
                              Arguing about human vs animal, brand versus brand is like arguing about religion, its pointless. Not to mention some people have a vested intrest in a certain brand or gear type (vet, human, euro etc) will spread false rumor about a competing brand or grade.
                              I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
                              I pray at least 6 times a day to build my soul

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