2nd cycle help

[fireman111]

I'm getting ready to order for my 2nd cycle and could use some help. I'm going to start off with some dbol and finish with winny in which ever one I choose. Which one do you guys think is best. Right now I'm 28yoa, 5'10" 175lbs. I'm looking to put on as much lean muscle as possible. I eat 4 meals a day and drink 4 protien shakes. my weight program is
mon-back
tue-chest
wed-legs
thur-shou
fri-arms
Cycles I'm concidering
1 Tt EQ 400ml/wk for 10 wks

2 Denkall T400 400ml/10wks
Tt nandrolona 300ml/wk 10wks

3 Susanon 250 500ml/10wks

I will run dbol 1st 4 wks and winny last 4 wks.
Any help is appreciated,
thanks Fireman

[bulldog_10]

I like the sust alone (#3) with the dbol and winny. Very simple cycle, should put on a good amount of mass...as long as your diet is in check...at 5'10, 175 I'm sure you're not eating enough...so start eating more and gains will come. Remember, the gear is only one part of the equation, and means nothing without proper diet, training and sleep.

Bulldog

[DaSarge]

What did you use for your first cycle?

What were your stats. before?

[fireman111]

My first cycle was a dbol and winny cycle. I know it wasn't the smartest cycle but i couldn't use needles(someone keeps a close eye on me and child support on 3 kids would not be cheap) Anyway I've been lifting for over 5 years and have never been able to get over 165. I weighed about 160 when I started 1st cycle and got up to 178. That was about 6 weeks ago, Ive only lost a couple of lbs. I was also thinking of QV enthate 250 500mg for 10 wks. Its not my diet cause my stomach never gets a rest, untill beddy-bye time

[bulldog_10]

Originally posted by fireman111
My first cycle was a dbol and winny cycle. I know it wasn't the smartest cycle but i couldn't use needles(someone keeps a close eye on me and child support on 3 kids would not be cheap) Anyway I've been lifting for over 5 years and have never been able to get over 165. I weighed about 160 when I started 1st cycle and got up to 178. That was about 6 weeks ago, Ive only lost a couple of lbs. I was also thinking of QV enthate 250 500ml for 10 wks

Damn, 500ml would be a HUGE cycle bro! LOL! I think you mean 500mg...

[bulldog_10]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
no he is talking about the 50ml jug of test from QV. it was a typo.

That's what I thought at first...but he also wrote ml instead of mg in the first post too...Anyways, I was just bustin his balls....

[Disposable_Hero]

go with the Sus @ 500mg/wk. Also, 4 weeks isnt long enough to run winny IMO you should bump that up to 6.

D_H

[fireman111]

250mg/ml 10ml vial of QV

[fireman111]

Boy I missed you guys haven't been able to find any of you since fitnessboard shut down, thanks for the help bros

[DaSarge]

Stick with a "bread and butter" cycle.
Nothing fancy.

Example:

500mg/wk Ethanthate (weeks 1-10)
300-400mg/wk Deca (weeks 1-10)
or
400-600mg/wk EQ (weeks 1-10)

add D-bol first 3-4 weeks
and Winny last 6 weeks.

And, don't forget to have your "ancilliaries" handy.

[fireman111]

How much of the dbol and winny would you go with.

[bulldog_10]

Originally posted by fireman111
How much of the dbol and winny would you go with.

I'd go with 25-30mg/ED of dbol, and 50mg/ED of winny.

[fireman111]

So which do you guys think is best for a "bread and butter" cycle?
1. sust 250@500mg/wk
2.denkall 400@400mg/wk
or
3.Ttokkyo EQ @400mg/ wk
with Dbol to jumpstart and winny to finish

[fireman111]

Does anyone have an opinion?

[Team Flex]

This is my current 2nd cycle

40mg Dbol wks 1-4
500mg Test Enanthate wks 1-10
400mg EQ wks 1-10

Nolv on hand, Clomid post cycle

I am very happy with this as my 2nd cycle. Im just starting week number 5 and my strength is going up as well as my wieght.


Good luck on your cycle.....