5th plans, lets hear what you think.

[rnixon]

Hey everyone I'm trying to plan my next cycle I will probably start in the new year sometime.

Stats 4 cycles, bf was @15% on calipers before and haven't gained any weight but not sure it is that low so let's say 15-20%
I'm 5'3" 165lbs lost 25 lbs last 7-8 months and gained a fair bit of muscle
Last cycle was test e @ 500 week
T-Bol @50mg first 7 weeks
HGH @ 2 iu Ed 7-8 months and still on.
Also on met right now @250mg 3times ED

These are my plans for my next cycle.



Bulk

Test blend 400mg/ml Maxvett Supermax T400
Mon&thurs 1ml for 15 weeks
Anapolan 100mg/Ed for first 7 weeks of cycle
Anavar 20mg/Ed for last 7 weeks of cycle
Kynoselen 4ml 1ml on mon,wed,thurs,sat.
B12 & Bcomplex @ 1000mcg mon & thurs
Metformin 250mg 3 times ED with carbs
Anti E ill use Adex @ .5-1mg EOD
Pct adex and clomid @ 4 weeks 100/75/50/50

Still need to set up my macros ill start another thread in diet & nutrition to try and get some help with setting them up.

Thanks
rnixon

[rnixon]

5 th cycle sorry

[rnixon]

Bump!!!

[rnixon]

C'mon Boys

[FUZO]

Re: 5th plans, lets hear what you think.

well from what I see I would up the anavar to like 80mg a day and run it longer then 7 weeks.Imo 7 weeks isnt long enough for anavar since its a safer oral to use long term

[bm2006]

Re: 5th plans, lets hear what you think.

i agree with fuzo but i'd like to add the you can get good results with 40mgs of var at 10 weeks or more. it cost alot for good var but i think u'll just waste your var at 20 a day so get more or save it for later.

if you do drop it run some deca or npp it works everytime

[rnixon]

Hmmm ok I've ran var before and liked it but will have to look to see what dose.
I might switch to the Olympus sust instead.

[rnixon]

Bump

[jamescb77]

Re: 5th plans, lets hear what you think.

no reason to use sust for bulking when enth or cyp which is cheaper works well. also i would run the anapolins and just leave the back half of the cycle with no oral. 15 weeks of orals is a long time my friend. if you don't grow on 800 test and 100 drol a day something is wrong. I have a feeling i know who gave you the advice on this cycle and he is very knowledgeable i just wouldn't bash my liver that much for a bulker. I actually prefer the drol 2-3 weeks on 2-3 off for the whole cycle. It's been working great for me so far.

[rnixon]

no reason to use sust for bulking when enth or cyp which is cheaper works well. also i would run the anapolins and just leave the back half of the cycle with no oral. 15 weeks of orals is a long time my friend. if you don't grow on 800 test and 100 drol a day something is wrong. I have a feeling i know who gave you the advice on this cycle and he is very knowledgeable i just wouldn't bash my liver that much for a bulker. I actually prefer the drol 2-3 weeks on 2-3 off for the whole cycle. It's been working great for me so far.

Ya maybe but I used E last cycle and want something different. And var I want to use I liked it before but ya i need to keep my liver in mind.

[Guest]

Re: 5th plans, lets hear what you think.

Just a little over kill IMHO.Ive always been a basic bread and butter type of cycle and have always gotten great results from this and little neg sides.The test is gtg with the drol but even 50mg of drol may be good enough with less strain on your organs.Also the var included with this cycle is good but as the others said you could run it longer as its a very mild steroid in temrs of sides.

Of ocurse the adex is always good to run but for the rest,just not needed IMO.

For me,less has always been the way to go.I have always tried to run the least amount of gear possible whie focusing more on my diet and training as an answer to make further gains.

[Guest]

Re: 5th plans, lets hear what you think.

Here's a couple of links on cycles that I have used and use that have always given me great results and more importantly,no significant negative side effects..........

http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/f252/cycles-newbie-advanced-99158.html

http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/f252/more-cycle-protocols-91588.html

[bm2006]

Re: 5th plans, lets hear what you think.

i agree with fist that is alot of drol for a bit long. really it would be really hard to make it to the gym taking that much from personal experience. there would be no time to go to the gym with all the *****in you would be doing lol! 3-4 to weeks is long enough to get what you need from it.

as far as the sus250 again with my trial and error the test e or c has always worked better unless you are able to take it eod at the least.

have you ever tried d-bol? if not i'd go with that before i'd mess with the drol. being only your 5th cycle there is no need to go to such an extreme and dbol is pretty amazing bro. i've always gaining what i needed for it without ever going over 35mgs a day.

my cycle always looks like this:

1-4 dbol 35mg ed
1-10 to 12 test 750mgs ew
1-10 deca 3-400mg ew or npp
1- pct adex dose is adjusted as needed

with that cycle i can do what ever i want with it. i can bulk and i can cut with it. all i have to do is adjust my diet to my current goals. now if i can find ans afford the var i'd take a couple weeks off of the d-bol and run the test a little longer.

[rnixon]

i agree with fist that is alot of drol for a bit long. really it would be really hard to make it to the gym taking that much from personal experience. there would be no time to go to the gym with all the *****in you would be doing lol! 3-4 to weeks is long enough to get what you need from it.

as far as the sus250 again with my trial and error the test e or c has always worked better unless you are able to take it eod at the least.

have you ever tried d-bol? if not i'd go with that before i'd mess with the drol. being only your 5th cycle there is no need to go to such an extreme and dbol is pretty amazing bro. i've always gaining what i needed for it without ever going over 35mgs a day.

my cycle always looks like this:

1-4 dbol 35mg ed
1-10 to 12 test 750mgs ew
1-10 deca 3-400mg ew or npp
1- pct adex dose is adjusted as needed

with that cycle i can do what ever i want with it. i can bulk and i can cut with it. all i have to do is adjust my diet to my current goals. now if i can find ans afford the var i'd take a couple weeks off of the d-bol and run the test a little longer.

I have run dbol on my first cycle and was thinking about it for this one. Ill have to re-read all this lol and try not to get confused. All good points though thanks.

[bm2006]

Re: 5th plans, lets hear what you think.

i've been where you are man and i've tried alot of things and keeping it simple is best. eating is your best tool for your goals and your cycles will work best. what i'm trying to say is adding to your diet is what you should be focusing on before adding more compounds.

eating correcting and doing your deadlifts and squats and you will get the results you seek. get that in tune bro and you will grow like you never though was possible!