Insulin Gains???????

[bigshug]

As long as you cycle your insulin 4wks on 4wks off, you should not become insulin dependant.....check the articles of interest forum, too, over at MC

[Lift Chief]

You definitely should not experience any problems with your pancreas while taking slin... your body will not stop producing insulin as long as you follow the 4 weeks on 4 weeks off protocal.

The thing we need to worry about is becoming insulin RESISTANT... ie type 2 diabetes.

This seems unlikely as we take the shorter acting insulins that more closely mimicks the body's natural insulin response to food... something we have to think about though, unfortunately.

Nothing we do comes without risk.

[syko]

Hey what about taking like ala or something that potentiates insulin sensitivity along with it or on the four weeks you are cycling off of it would that help a great deal or would it just get you back to normal levels?

[jack hust]

slin can make your cycle but your diet and timeing have to be down i need 15-20 iu slin to see a big weight gain but i eat 500-600 grms carb ed alog with 5500cal i would say it makes my cycles 25% better

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by bigshug
As long as you cycle your insulin 4wks on 4wks off, you should not become insulin dependant.....check the articles of interest forum, too, over at MC

I ran it for 6 months, and Im fine. I think diabetes induced by insulin is overhyped. But I never do 2x a day injections, and always use humalog. A powerbar raises your natural insulin higher than 10ius of humalog. Only thing is, humalog is more sustained. Your doing your pancreas a favor by easing the load on it, 100g of dextrose needs a lot of insulin. This way, your pancreas gets a break, but you still get the benefits of insulin's anabolic properties. People become type II diabetics because of a diet high in refined carbs, which make your pancreas produce a lot of insulin, and because lack of exercise. So to a certain extent, your doing yourself a favor. But i advocate moderate doses (no more than 15ius) and post workout only doses. When I ran it in the AM too, alls i noticed was more fat gain, post workout my fat gain is slim to none. I also suggest using humalog, it has the shortes life span, therefore you get the spike, and its out in a few hours, lessening the chance of complications. Humulin is okay, but it has a slighlty longer lifespan, therefore is more anabolic, but IMO has more potential for causing damage.

[WarbirdWS6]

Originally posted by prolangtum
I ran it for 6 months, and Im fine. I think diabetes induced by insulin is overhyped. But I never do 2x a day injections, and always use humalog. A powerbar raises your natural insulin higher than 10ius of humalog. Only thing is, humalog is more sustained. Your doing your pancreas a favor by easing the load on it, 100g of dextrose needs a lot of insulin. This way, your pancreas gets a break, but you still get the benefits of insulin's anabolic properties. People become type II diabetics because of a diet high in refined carbs, which make your pancreas produce a lot of insulin, and because lack of exercise. So to a certain extent, your doing yourself a favor. But i advocate moderate doses (no more than 15ius) and post workout only doses. When I ran it in the AM too, alls i noticed was more fat gain, post workout my fat gain is slim to none. I also suggest using humalog, it has the shortes life span, therefore you get the spike, and its out in a few hours, lessening the chance of complications. Humulin is okay, but it has a slighlty longer lifespan, therefore is more anabolic, but IMO has more potential for causing damage.

good you said that.....i'm thinking of keeping on it for about 4months, 8-10iu post w/o only (4-5 days a week). everyone said 4 on 4 off.....but i figure like you stated....if you use it judiciously, you can run it for longer stretches. that is....i HOPE.

[Lift Chief]

Originally posted by prolangtum
I ran it for 6 months, and Im fine. I think diabetes induced by insulin is overhyped. But I never do 2x a day injections, and always use humalog. A powerbar raises your natural insulin higher than 10ius of humalog. Only thing is, humalog is more sustained. Your doing your pancreas a favor by easing the load on it, 100g of dextrose needs a lot of insulin. This way, your pancreas gets a break, but you still get the benefits of insulin's anabolic properties. People become type II diabetics because of a diet high in refined carbs, which make your pancreas produce a lot of insulin, and because lack of exercise. So to a certain extent, your doing yourself a favor. But i advocate moderate doses (no more than 15ius) and post workout only doses. When I ran it in the AM too, alls i noticed was more fat gain, post workout my fat gain is slim to none. I also suggest using humalog, it has the shortes life span, therefore you get the spike, and its out in a few hours, lessening the chance of complications. Humulin is okay, but it has a slighlty longer lifespan, therefore is more anabolic, but IMO has more potential for causing damage.

I agree with you in that you are actually helping your pancreas by taking slin with a 100gm dextrose post workout drink... by taking the slin you are easing the load on the pancreas in dealing with the influx of simple carbs you take post workout anyways, not harming it.

Pro where do you get that your insulin levels are more spiked ffrom a powerbar than from insulin? I realize a certain amount of carbs would be equivalent to the insulin spike from say 10ius of humalog, but im wondering where you got this information.