How neccessary is some type of clomid?

[NONUTS]

How important is it to take clomid or HCG at the end of a cycle. Obviously it restores natural testosterone and helps keep gains, but what could be expected if you took Sus/EQ/Winny for 10weeks with no clomid? Just wondering..... havent heard any related posts. Thanks

[prolangtum]

Losing 95% of your gains, low sex-drive, impotence possible, derpression, up to 6 months for natural test to recover.

[rado]

well the members here will tell you that I've done that before and I have with no bad results from NOT taking any, not that I'm condoning you nor anyone to do so ok? I just happen to be fine with out it, altough i do take Tribulis after and during my cycles. 99.9% will say it's crucial for anyone to do it, I just don't do it kid. I have done similar cycles like that and never take any while on or off.

[prolangtum]

Hey, I Aint a mod for nothing


Wait a minute........

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by rado
well the members here will tell you that I've done that before and I have with no bad results from NOT taking any, not that I'm condoning you nor anyone to do so ok? I just happen to be fine with out it, altough i do take Tribulis after and during my cycles. 99.9% will say it's crucial for anyone to do it, I just don't do it kid. I have done similar cycles like that and never take any while on or off.

Rado, I know you say you recover without it, but have you got any before cycle and after cycle tests to confirm your test was restored?

[prolangtum]

Yes, but he still may not be fully recovered.

[NONUTS]

The reason i ask is i tooka deca/sus. cycle overa year ago with no clomid. I have lost 50% of my gains in strength and weight but i also stopped working out due to an arm injury. i never experienced any libido, depression, or any other side effects. I am still 9 % bf, so i dont believe fat gain is a problem for me.

[rado]

Originally posted by Crankin'steiN
I think what he is saying, is that he doesn't get any of the sides that we mentioned above, after his cycle without the clomid therapy...

thank you for clarifying that kid....

and yes my huevos do come back, and no problem in the sack here either...

[BullFX]

i know a guy did 10 weeks of sust 500 and dbolz and gained 20lbs ... didnt use clomid post cycle and lost 25lbs...

[prolangtum]

But,
your Test levels may come back up, but not too optimal level. Recovery can take up to 6 months is some cases, so your levels may be up say 80% of normal, but you show no low testerone signs.

[got_pinz]

one can only try it and see what happens.....and rado and pro...they keep beating me to everything too..where do you guys find time to work out....j/k

[NONUTS]

In the sus/deca cycle i took i went from 170 to 185 pounds in 8 weeks. i would say it took at least 4 months after my arm injury before i was back down to -175 pounds. Now im about 175 again(been working out for 3 weeks, no creatine, protien, ect.) I just figure if i take a similar cycle to Sus./EQ/winny with no clomid but continue to work out afterwards i could keep my gains considerably better than before.

[bigpimpc]

Originally posted by Crankin'steiN
I think your name is pretty much the answer......

lol!

clomid makes the buddies come back.... so therefore very important

[prolangtum]

Why are you adamant about not using clomid? I dont get it. Maybe you could keep your gains and break 200lbs.

got_pinz,
Who said I worked out? J/K. Today was Cardio and abs, so I was in and out in 45 minutes, and back to the office to screw around on the computer, err I mean get work done.

[rado]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Why are you adamant about not using clomid? I dont get it. Maybe you could keep your gains and break 200lbs.

got_pinz,
Who said I worked out? J/K. Today was Cardio and abs, so I was in and out in 45 minutes, and back to the office to screw around on the computer, err I mean get work done.

who ever said I lost my gains? I've never lost(well maybe 1-2lbs), but that's it, nothing more kidI will use some for this upcoming cycle of mine, if that tickles your tummy kid....