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    I am in precycle mode right now. Diet is in check and fat is coming off fast. Not lost any muscle at all.
    My next cycle will be test and deca. So my question is I want to clean bulk as much as possible on deca.
    I can dirty bulk easy but do not want to bulk-diet just clean bulk for now.
    How many calories?

  • #2
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    It's more about where the calories are coming from, than "how many".

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    • #3
      Agree with pit. Macros make or break a diet not necessarily calories. Eat clean through the bulk and you'll get results. Also NPP will keep water lower than deca. Just be aware of extra h2o retention with deca and high test.

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      • #4
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        ya big difference if its a ho-ho or a piece of fruit even though they might match up calorie wise...

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        • #5
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          Bulking is a matter of excess calories, nothing more. Where the calories come from is a bigger part of the equation then anything else, and this really comes into play when the bulk ends. I look at it this way, how much chicken can I eat for 500 calories as opposed to how many Snickers bars for the same amount of calories? Bulking, I love to eat 4-5 big meals a day, but if those meals feature crappy foods most of my "bulk weight" is lard. I'm looking to gain as much muscle as possible on a bulk, not just weight.

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          • #6
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            Is this an example?

            Clean Bulk Diet

            • Consume a diet consisting roughly of 40 to 50 percent carbs, 30 to 40 percent protein, and 25 to 35 percent fat while following a clean bulking diet. While most of your meals should contain a fair blend of the three macronutrients, the meals before and after your workout should consist of just carbs and protein (in a 2:1 ratio) with minimal fat. This approach will avoid the slowdown in digestion that occurs from fat consumption, helping to shuttle more nutrients into your muscles when you need them most--to prepare you for an impending workout and to recover from a completed workout. Beyond that, each meal you consume should be roughly aligned with the listed percentages--most of the meal should consist of healthy carbs such as fruits, vegetables, brown rice, whole grains and sweet potatoes; a moderate portion of the meal should consist of lean protein from low-fat meat, chicken, turkey, eggs or seafood, and a smaller portion of the meal should contain healthy fat from fat-containing fruit (think avocados), nuts, seeds or healthy cooking oils like olive or coconut. Aim to consume just enough calories to add roughly a pound per week, as this slow but steady rate of gains should be sufficient to enable you to add maximal size without adding excessive fat to your waistline.

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            • #7
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              I would reverse the percentages of carbs and protein, 40-50 percent protein, 30-40 percent carbs and 25-35 percent from healthy fats. Now this is just me, you really need to experiment.

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              • #8
                Re: deca and clean bulk

                But clean food and eat lots of small meals

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                • #9
                  Yes, 4-6 meals a day. You need to adjust to what works for you. I like 4 meals and 2 shakes.

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                  • #10
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                    I eat every 2 hours when I'm bulking.. whether it be a shake and snack or a meal. I agree with anabolic on the 40-50 percent protein, 30-40 percent carbs and 25-35 percent from healthy fats. That's how I roll too.

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                    • #11
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                      curious what macros means

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                      • #12
                        It's short for macronutrients. Your carbohydrates proteins and fats the breakdown between those three components. They are the major components of your diet.

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                        • #13
                          Re: deca and clean bulk

                          Originally posted by dirtwarrior View Post
                          curious what macros means
                          Macronutrients.. it's the breakdown of Protien, Carbs, and fats that you consume each day.

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                          • #14
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                            haha.. rock beat me to it

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                            • #15
                              Re: deca and clean bulk

                              Originally posted by Anabolic5150 View Post
                              I would reverse the percentages of carbs and protein, 40-50 percent protein, 30-40 percent carbs and 25-35 percent from healthy fats. Now this is just me, you really need to experiment.
                              agreed...i found i had to take in even lower carbs and increased the fat and protien...

                              if you didnt already secure you aas, look into NPP.... my prob was still water weight...my face blows up like the michilin man!!
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