**cycle help**

[got_pinz]

....my cycle is as follows

W1-4 40-50mg d-bol
W1-3 1cc EOD sust
W4-12 500 mg enanthate
W8-12 fina or winny

this is third cycle 5'8" 215# 14% BF imput would be great from vets and some of the heavies..is there anything i could change or do different???? got clomid/anit e's

1st cycle
W1-10 500mg omnadren
W1-3 50mg anadrol

2nd
W1-12 750mg enanthate
W1-6 400mg deca
W6-12 100mg EOD fina

[bigdog20]

I would run enanthate the whole cycle and get rid of the sust.

[pigmeat]

get rid of the sus and just run 750 mg enthan first 3 weeks. The d-bol will jump start you just fine. I would throw in deca at 400mg wk also. or eq at 400-500.

[bowbow]

Originally posted by pigmeat
get rid of the sus and just run 750 mg enthan first 3 weeks. The d-bol will jump start you just fine. I would throw in deca at 400mg wk also. or eq at 400-500.

I agree with this. I would throw in some eq since you've already tried deca.

[kane.d3]

I would run 400-500mg of Deca or EQ through the whole cycle.

[Lmg2701]

what is the reason behind the weeks 1-3.....frontloading? I don't see any big problem with your cycle but IMO if your going to start it with sus. stay with it. Lots of people say it's overrated and i did as well at one time but i think it's one of the best things i've taken.

[rado]

Originally posted by pigmeat
get rid of the sus and just run 750 mg enthan first 3 weeks. The d-bol will jump start you just fine. I would throw in deca at 400mg wk also. or eq at 400-500.

I'm with you on this one too. I would just do the Eq though at 400-500 for you.

[got_pinz]

yeah..i was going to run the enanthate all the way but have a bunch of sust amps and thought using them and get the use of prop ...and run 400-500mg of EQ through out W1-12?? thanks oh wise ones

[DiamondBling]

Just save the Sust for your next cycle. U don't have to use up the Sust........

[lsu777]

doesn't really matter which one you use just pick one and stick with it. I would save the sust. though and use ena. I agree with everybody else throw in some deca or eq. I also would run fina instead of winny because of the stress on the liver running 2 17aa in one cycle.

[Akamai]

If you want to keep the chems the same and dosage like said start the Sust and the enant week one itll take till week 4 for the sust to kick in completely E will be in quicker semi frontloaded , sust will taper towards week 12. You could also drop the enen to 250 the last 4 weeks as it apears you goal is to tighten up after bulking.

[got_pinz]

hardening up isn't a realpriority right now..i think i'm going to do 2 bulk cycles this year then harden up after those....Akamai or others members amount of gear is no issue....lots of sust.lots of enanthate.lots of dbol....will have to get EQ though..which would be the best EQ for my plan????

[johnnyboy845]

what they said... either sust or enanthate the whole time one or the other and up the dose of test ... and try to run the fina 2 weeks after last test e shot so you can go right into clomid without waiting 2 weeks...

[got_pinz]

thanks for the imput guys...start cycle next week and i'll keep you posted...bi-weekly

[prolangtum]

Cripes 40-50mg of dbol? My back hurts now thinking about it.