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Training correctly can also bring up a lagging bodypart.Originally posted by basskiller
If used correctly synthol can help a lagging part.. If overused or used incorrectly, you can develope an un-natural looking muscle.
I disagree. To compare synthol to anabolic steriods is comical. Both are synthetic yes, but anabolics aid muscle growth, synthol replaces muscle. Wouldnt you laugh at someone who got calf implants? I would.....synthol is the samething, only you inject it. Misusing steriods is one's own ignorance, using synthol at all is one's own ignorance. People think AAS users are 'cheating' or are 'being lazy', but in fact, most anabolic users train even harder, its a shame the same cant be said for synthol users. I would be afraid to dump half a pound of oil in my triceps and then do some close grip bench, I see that as counter productive. Not everyone misuses steriods, but everyone who uses synthol misuses it, it truly is the easy way out. Id spend the extra $$ on some GH for spot growth.If you guys are so dead set against synthol use, then you should be the same way about steroids.. There have been some that mis-used steroids to the point of liver damage..
I believe synthol is for the uneducated. Sure its a lot easier to inject some oil there instead of busting your ass in the gym or learning a technique to hit that certain area you so lazily inject synthetic oil. Pathetic really, granted Greg gave it a bad name, but I think anyone who knows anything about knows its laughable.Just because one or two guys mis-use a product, we consider it no good.. I really believe you should re-think your reasons behind hating the product so.
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I think you are taking personal my friend, I dont even look at the member name when I reply to a post. No where did I say you are ignorant, you are uneducated, no where did I make it personal.Originally posted by basskiller
Why is it when someone disagrees with you you take it to the level of trying to degrade someone..
I'm personally sick and tired of it. You have an opinion, great but to say to the people that disagree with you .. that they're uneducated, ignorant and such...
Correction: there is NO correct use of synthol.By the way.. it is you who are ignorant in the ways of correct synthol usage.. It doesn't replace muscle, when used correctly!!!!!!!!
Im basing my opinion on the chemical make up of synthol, its uses and how quick lazy, unedcuated people are to use it. I think thats more than fair to assume its useless.Your assuming and basing YOUR OPINION on one mans useage of the product..
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Im basing it on people using genetics as a lame ass excuse to shoot oil in their arms, legs, chest, etc. Instead of switching routines, educating themselves about how to 'bring up' lagging parts, they inject synthetic oil instead. Not only is it hilarious, but its a slap in the face to anyone who calls themself a bodybuilder. Once you inject synthol anywhere on your body, you are no longer a bodybuilder, you are a synthetic barbie doll. Now before you tell me steriods are the same, not even close. Steriods do not instantly add 1 inch to your arm, AAS users work just as hard, and more often than not, harder than natural lifters (of course this is a generalization and varies from person to person, so no one jump my nuts). Steriods arent instant muscle, they are an aid in achieving your desired size, not taking your bi's from 15 inches to 17 inches in half an hour.Originally posted by basskiller
what are you basing any of this on?
This wasnt a personal attack on you, unless of course you use synthol, then you indeed do apply. But I would hope, and by reading your material, you are smarter than that.Yes you did use those terms
"using synthol at all is one's own ignorance" So by me using this makes me ignorant
Well I could have said stupid, which is probably more accurate, but uneducated was a bit more politcally correct, and god forbid anyone state how they truly feel."I believe synthol is for the uneducated" And now you just called anyone that used this uneducated..
Oh God, come on, let's keep this drama free.... just because I quote you doesnt mean Im talking to you.... unless of course you use synthol, then I am, but I'll assume you dont.So yes I do take it personal that you quote me and use these terms to express YOUR OPINION
So what exactly are you basing your facts upon?Not facts, just accurate opinions based on shrewd observations.
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The oil just evaportates? Neat.Originally posted by basskiller
How do Site Oils work? To begin with, they do not stay in the muscle for 3 to 5 years. They get dissipated within months.
[quote]The fascia is a great constrictive factor in muscle growth./quote]
Once again, disagree. Fascia can and will stretch to accommodate muscle expansion in all directions. This is basic physiology.
So when the synthol leaves, muscle replaces it? Wow this is too good to be true. I dont even have to lift weights, I'll inject some oil, it evaportates and muscle replaces it. Where's this muscle come from?The more stretched the fascia is the more the muscle will grow and the more it will have that 'popping' look. Site oils stay in there long enough for the fascia to stretch. As they dissipate, the 'space' left by them is replaced with new muscle tissue growth.
The oil dissipated and it was replaced by real muscle.Afraid not. So you're telling me when Gregs are popped, no signs or secretion of oil was present? Riiiiight.[
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And what do you have? Go to any other board that dont have synthol using bodybuilders and ask about it..... I visit both those boards. Would you go to a pro hormone based board and says "pro hormone's suck?" No, I would hope not, because no matter what you say you're wrong (whether you're really right or not). When people use things, they do not want to believe what they use is wrong or worthless. I have provided countless studies on why glutamine is worthless, people still use it, so that was a very moot point. Not to mention to compare novice, weekened warrior bodybuilders to pro's is laughable also. If Gunter uses synthol, we all should?Originally posted by basskiller
So to condense all this.. means is that you don't have anything.
What observations.. where who...
Once again, Im not a pro bodybuilder and what pro bodybuilder so is irrelevant to me. They also use IGF-1, GH, DNP, A gram a week of test, etc. So whats your point?There are more BBers(pros at that) that use the product. You just have one sad case of one guy that has mis-used it. That's it.. The rest is guys spouting off the same old rederic.
Not the same scenerio. Not even close. Why is it that everytime a pro is suspected of using synthol? There's more than one case of abuse, Valentino is not taken seriously, so he gives it a bad name, but Im willing to look past that, 1 asshole shouldnt ruin it for everyone. But if you think about what is being done with the oil, it goes against everything bodybuilders stand for, pro or not. Hell, we could be like Milos and inject our synthol into an artery.The same could be said about the pro hormones your always defending.. Most people believe that they are a waste, But your trying to educate them.. But why is it that they think this way.. because time and time again they hear the same thing.. And no I'm not saying they are a waste.. Just the same senerio.
No sir, thats where you're wrong and where you've just contradicted yourself. If I went with the masses, I would hate pro hormones and I would use glutamine. Instead, Im intelligent enough to do my own reasearch and draw my own conclusion. So insult my intelligence, or whatever, do what you gotta do, but you know better. I think synthol is wrong, does everyone? Certainly not. I have explained my case, something you have yet to do. Linking me to some board asking me to explain to synthol users that synthol is wrong, let me link you to a anti-abortion board and have you explain to them abortion is correct.That is all you've shown me here today.. Your one of the huddled mass's that thinks because they've heard over and over again that it's bad.. then it must be..
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Doesnt matter who it is, that was merely an example. Im not going to fall for some bullshit explaination given by someone who sells the shit, I guess that makes me unlike the masses.Originally posted by basskiller
The part you can't get through your head is the difference between a right way and a wrong way.. I can tell this by your mere mentioning of Greg!
There is no right or wrong way. Its synthol, for the love of god. Using synthol is a weakness. "I can build my calves up, Ill just inject some oil." Weak.
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dude i thought u said u know greg it should be obvious to you what that is thats where his arm was popped, ok popped may not be the medical term but fuck itOriginally posted by BIG-G
YELLOWJACKET, please tell me what that is (besides a pic of a messed up arm)??????????????
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Originally posted by basskiller
Yes I have read them.. time after time you discount peoples posts because they are opinion based. Your alway, I mean Always asking for documented proof.. This is what your whole life seems to rely on.. But yet you offer none what so ever.. I find that a little ironic.
You want articles and journal citations on something so laughable as synthol? If they did exist, you can look for them, not me.
While Im not too old, 3-4 years is a slap in the face. Let me guess, you're going to damage my credibility now tooOld school.. Dude you've only been in this sport 3 or 4 years tops. How can you consider yourself old school?
Anyway- by old school, I mean following the old school principles. Hard work, not site injection of oil to save sometime.
Its hard to present facts, when none exist. Please, share with me the facts. There arent any facts. This is an issue that could be debated for days and weeks. I dont agree with its use, apparently you do, I have my reasons, you have yours. This isnt exactly a topic to search for in PubMed, Highwire or Medline.I'm sorry YJ, but everything you've posted goes against everything you yourself preach. you want fact not opinion
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In principle, I consider myself old school. Old school cycles, old school training methods, etc. Doesnt mean Im 50+ years old.Originally posted by basskiller
I'm not trying to damage anything YJ, You posted it over at BB.com last year .. I was just going by what you said.. It was not meant to be a slap in the face at all.. I just thought, how could you ever be old school.
This was dismissed above I believe. Synthol and anabolic-androgenic steriods arent comparable. I have worked even harder while 'on' than I do when off. You still have to do the work, you still have to have a stellar diet, you still must be traning correctly and you still must sleep an adequatly amount of time. Synthol doesnt require any of thise.Your right, But again I ask.. what are you basing this on.. Peoples experiances or just what people have just heard and passed along? For You to have such a dim veiw of it , then to also to explain your old school as "Hard work, not site injection of oil to save sometime" Then you must also say the same about steroids.. This uses oil as a carrier and it does by all definitions .."Saves Time"
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