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    I'll begin with my stats first I'm 30 years old weight 220 solid at 6
    foot,been working out on and of for 12 years never done a
    cycle. I have 10ml of deca 300mg and some d-bol how should I
    take this and do I need to and and clomid or nolvadex cause I'm
    alittle paranoid about the use of steroids and my health.
    THANX

  • #2
    Run
    Test 400mg for 10 weeks
    Deca 300mg for 10 weeks

    I would wait on the dbol, especially if your worried about sides
    I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
    I pray at least 6 times a day to build my soul

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    • #3
      I think clomid and some type of dex (nolva, arimi, liquid, depending on your school of thought) is mandatory for any cycle. cept maybe var only one or something like that.
      Tinfish@Ziplip.com
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      • #4
        Why do do suggest adding 400mg of test

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        • #5
          because test is the base for any cycle, generally.

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          • #6
            Deca only will shut down your natural test, dbol is no help either.
            I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
            I pray at least 6 times a day to build my soul

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            • #7
              I agree with prolangtum. Drop the dbol add the test and follow his advice on mgs. This was what I did for my first cycle. I would not recommend dbol for a first timer. You will get very good gains with this cycle. Have Fun!

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              • #8
                would I notice bigger gains with deca and test compaired to
                just taking the deca

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                • #9
                  YES!!!! If anything I would take test by itself, not deca. You would get some gains from deca by itself, but nothing like if you add the test. Just try and get a hold of some enan or prop. It should be fairly cheap.

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                  • #10
                    How about some sustanon

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                    • #11
                      you need the test bro and sustanon will be fine it is test.

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                      • #12
                        what kind of gains can i expect with deca and test

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                        • #13
                          test/deca

                          or tren.

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                          • #14
                            add some test in there.. if u can afford.. if not, deca and dbol will work too... (that's what my 1st cycle looked like.. and i was pleased with results)
                            u should definetly have nolvadex on hand.. and clomid for the post cycle therapy... if u got some extra money go with aromasin instead of nolvadex...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pappapump
                              would I notice bigger gains with deca and test compaired to
                              just taking the deca
                              Oh yes! much much better gains

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