Seeking advice on Deca/T400/Dbol cycle

[kwik20r]

Gear:
2x 10ml QV deca 300 bottles
2x 10ml Denkall T400 bottles
100x thai anabol pills (5mg)

Stats: 5'10", 195-200lbs, 14% body fat, age: 23

Cycle:
30mgs dbol ed. days 1-16
300mgs Deca ew.weeks 1-10
400mgs Test400 ew. weeks 1-12
Will follow up w/post cycle clomid treatment
Mebbe HCG if I can get my hands on it, keeping Nolvadex on hand if I need it.

Background: I've run a few halfassed cycles... listened to the advice from some yolked up buddies instead of counting on my own research and what I've read. First cycle was a few years back, a straight sus. cycle, got decent results, kept gains alright. Second cycle was just T400... decent gainst there, but kept nothing when I crashed... Figured I'd learn something from that, but I didn't. The third cycle I played with some t400 and some Ttokkyo nandrolone 300, tossed some injectible dbol in the mix just to minimize the horse kick in the ass from the T400... I got great results but tried to pan it out too long, continuing injections with som more sus... I crashed hard as hell, lost almost all my gains (dropped from about 210 all the way down to like 190, no b.s., lighter than I was at the start of the cycle), the "Twins" were like marbles for like two months after that.

Approach: Finally learned my friggin' lesson, making sure to have an anti-est on hand (I've heard good things about proviron but can't get it so I'm going with Nolvadex) and clomid for post cycle recovery. I'm afraid of losing my gains again and want to put on a decent amount of weight.

I've also got 2 bottles of QV Eq (10ml ea.) and 2 bottles of QV winny (20ml ea.)... I thought about using the Eq this cycle with the test but everything I've read seems to allude that the deca will get me better mass gains... Any ideas/advice/personal experience would be appreciated... How you guys would stack the gear, how you'd hit post cycle for this stack, how you might taper doses to help you keep your gains etc. I've done good bit of research but feel that personal experience and opinions are good advice.

Thanks!

[njjuicer]

i like qv eq never used anything else.........i liek to go at least 500 mg of test and 400 of deca depending on how u take to deca sum get bloat i dont so i liek it but u coudl use the eq if u were worried about that otherwise it looks good

[kwik20r]

Originally posted by njjuicer
i like qv eq never used anything else.........i liek to go at least 500 mg of test and 400 of deca depending on how u take to deca sum get bloat i dont so i liek it but u coudl use the eq if u were worried about that otherwise it looks good

I didn't bloat too badly off deca last time I used it, 'bout the same I got with test alone. I've got enough to up the dosage by 100 mgs of the deca ea. week. So I should prolly save the EQ and the winny for a cutting cycle then, right?

[prolangtum]

If you have 2 of each Deca and Test, this is how I would do it

Test 1-10 400mg (FL week 1 Day 1 800mg)
Deca 1-10 400mg (FL week 1 Day 1 800mg)
Anabol 25mgs ed Days 1-25
Winny Weeks 9-13 50mg ed

[kwik20r]

Originally posted by prolangtum
If you have 2 of each Deca and Test, this is how I would do it

Test 1-10 400mg (FL week 1 Day 1 800mg)
Deca 1-10 400mg (FL week 1 Day 1 800mg)
Anabol 25mgs ed Days 1-25
Winny Weeks 9-13 50mg ed

Thanks bro... Think I should still hit my clomid 3 weeks out from my last shot of Deca? I really wanna run the winny at the end of my cycle, harden up nicely, but I'm a lil' unclear about how I should do the clomid if I do that.

[bronco21]

I personally get great gains off of deca and test and am planning on adding dbol and EQ to that. I would stick with what you originally wrote down, but bump your deca to 450 mg per week. I get much better gains when I do this and I also used QV. You could even stand to bump your test to 600 mg per week depending on how many cycles you have done before this? If you do it like this you will be very pleased.

[Tricky]

You may get better mass gains with deca but consider this. You will inevitably lose some of that mass to your post cycle crash no matter how much clomid you stuff yourself full. EQ is great because the muscle is quality, solid and generally most gains are kept. There is basically no water retention with EQ either so some of that mass that you gain from deca will be water, which is useless. Since you have the dbol I think a test, EQ dbol cycle is in order. With proper anti strogens and post cycle therapy your gains will be good and you will maintain alot more throughout. IMO anyway. Lata