Can anyone tell me??

[Polish Prince]

Hey guys! I was just wondering for a first cycle if I would see any results by doing a dbol cycle alone....20-25mg...or maybe more if i can handle it? I will have nolvadex aswell. Little scared on doing needles right now but i will eventually get there. But thats all i would have on hand i guess? So any thoughts would be great..thanks

also, would i only have to use the nolvadex if gyno symptoms came up...or is it a good idea to use it during the dbol cycle? Heard it would get ride of the water?

[shleprock]

when i first got into the juice i didnt know anything about it, a friend gave me some naps dbol and told me to take them and i would grow. i took them for 3 months straight at 20mgs a day. the first 2 i gained 15lbs the last all i gained were bloody noses and head aches. my point being i did gain pretty much on only dbol but didnt know what i was doing. i did lose about 5 of it after i stopped. prob. water!

[Polish Prince]

so you only took dbols alone? nothing else? Does anybody know if its a wise idea to take nolvadex while on or after? thanks for the reply shleprock!

[##spiderbaby##]

Look, Dbol can be used alone if used correctly AND if taken for a decent length of time. I am cutting on Dbol right now. (yes I said cutting).

Dbol 50mg ED for 10 weeks. A clean high protien diet and the results have been great. The trick is to remember that the 'fullness' you get will go away when you stop so those are not 'gains'. So you can take dbol only. It is not the best of the best by any stretch but it is still a powerful anabolic.

20mg ED will help but your diet has to be excellent. I cant say this enough, if you dont have that in order your cycle will suck, this is even more true with Dbol. 2 grams of protien per pound of bodyweight, period.

Nolva is a must have if nothing else for gyno symtoms. Do not take it unless you get symptoms it is pretty much pointless on dbol only because in my opinion it takes away some of the properties that make dbol so good. Just dont take it unless you need to.

The last two weeks of Dbol I will be taking 100mg ED. Sounds like alot but if my blood profile comes back OK then I will do it. Understand I have seen positive results from Dbol only and cutting. I have shed alot of fat and have alot of fullness that is keeping me from looking the way that I want but the point of a cutting cycle is to get cut not to look cut while on.

I already have good striations in my delts, tri's, neck and starting in my chest finaly. My hopes are that when I shed this water it will be even more noticable.

[prolangtum]

Just shell out $90 for two bottles of Test, sure you can get gains on dbol only, but test allows for more growth.

[Polish Prince]

thanks for the replys guys....very helpful!! I also was wondering what would the dbol due if you had some fat, like on the love handles...little spots like these? Would the dbol simply just add more fat to those problem areas? Or would it just try to turn the fat to muscle? thanks again boys!!

[Polish Prince]

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[THE JUICE]

You'll gain, but you will lose it.

[CJWolf]

if you don't inject ... don't do AS.

[FLEMS]

Originally posted by CJWolf
if you don't inject ... don't do AS.

agreed.....needles can be scary if you don't know what you're doing....educate yourself on how to inject (www.spotinjections.com) ...you can put together a much safer cycle w/ needles IMO....pills for the most part are much more toxic

[##spiderbaby##]

No AS adds fat. Its all in your diet. If you eat like shit to get your potien requirement in then you will get fat. If you eat mass quantities of protien and do not workout with intensity then you will get fat. Dbol puts on real muscle and quality muscle at that, it is just that it takes some time to do this AND you hold alot of water. So you may think you have gained 15 pounds but when you come off you lose 10 pounds just from bloat. SO when taking dbol you have to understand this and adjust accordingly.

When your body gains muscle from Dbol it is no different than if you did it naturaly, your body does not know the difference because there is none. BUT actually gaining 10 pounds of muscle on Dbol means that you will probably be up 25 pound on total weight gain. So dont get 15 pounds heavier and expect to keep close to that when you end the cycle.

I have gained roughly 8 pounds but I also am a lot leaner than I was at the beginning. SO I am hoping that I can trim down and gain a few #'s . So far so good.

[Polish Prince]

hey thanks for the reply's guys....feeling very confident now and can't wait to start my first cycle. Who knows, maybe my next cycle will be with needles? well thanks again guys!

[##spiderbaby##]

Honestly test is the way to go. Injection is only hard the first time.

[Polish Prince]

ya i figured that....i know that once u do your first injection you'll probably laugh at yourself for being so scared eh? I'll consider it next time though!