HCG at end of Cycle

[Xadrenaline]

OK, I have a done a TON of research on here and other places a on use of HCG at end of cycle. But there is some ambiguity.

1. Can I start taking HCG the last week of cycle. And do I continue to use it?
The time length is all over the place from ed for 1wk to 3wks? That's a TON of 3 weeks..
2. Do I use it in conjunction with Clomid and an AI (Liquidex)?
3. I know one uses a insulin syringe. What size? Will 31G 5/16th" needle work?
4. Inject SubQ, right? Stomach I am assuming.

I have never had a total loss of sex drive (as well as nuts size loss) after a cycle like this. I feel like a efing eunuch.

I have Gonakor HCG that a got a few years ago. I have Clomid and Liquidex as well. I have just started 250iu of HCG and then about 100mg of Clomid and .25 Liquidex.

My boys and my sex life would be GREATLY appreciative of any help.
Like I noted, I have researched a crap load, but the questions above are never answered.


Thank you.. Been awhile since I posted on here..
Peace,
X

[alluprbdy]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

You can do sub q or im. Most do sub q, 31g is fine I use a 29g 1/2" slim pin. I am not sure there really is a wrong way to run it aside from using too high a dose in one shot. It's all personal preference. You can do 250 2x a week thru out, I've seen good results from people using it at the end at 500iu/day for 20-30days with nolva protocol. I personally have always ran it the last 5 weeks of my cycle leading me into post at 500ius 2x a week. Then a standard nolva post with clomid, torm, or just nolva.

[alluprbdy]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

100mg is a lot of clomid btw, is lower the dose to 50mg. Clomid isn't as widely hailed as it once was, most won't run it at all. I still do on most pct but at 50mg/2 week then 25mg 2/weeks along with my nolva 40/40/20/20 regimen

[ketsugo]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

OK, I have a done a TON of research on here and other places a on use of HCG at end of cycle. But there is some ambiguity.

1. Can I start taking HCG the last week of cycle. And do I continue to use it?
The time length is all over the place from ed for 1wk to 3wks? That's a TON of 3 weeks..
2. Do I use it in conjunction with Clomid and an AI (Liquidex)?
3. I know one uses a insulin syringe. What size? Will 31G 5/16th" needle work?
4. Inject SubQ, right? Stomach I am assuming.

I have never had a total loss of sex drive (as well as nuts size loss) after a cycle like this. I feel like a efing eunuch.

I have Gonakor HCG that a got a few years ago. I have Clomid and Liquidex as well. I have just started 250iu of HCG and then about 100mg of Clomid and .25 Liquidex.

My boys and my sex life would be GREATLY appreciative of any help.
Like I noted, I have researched a crap load, but the questions above are never answered.


Thank you.. Been awhile since I posted on here..
Peace,
X

of course there is ambuguity - you dont reserach on most boards - most people know less then you- plus most just google without ever having used the shit. Myself if I post something its because if used it every which way over the past 15 years- not because I googled it or read some idiot post on a forum by some wanna be know it all- that never used the shit in his life

However you are right on all counts- you can use it at the end or use it every few weeks during cycle and yes it is part of a PCT with clomid and novaldex. - I could google right now PCT with HCG and find the same cycle over and over again- I dont find it ambiguous. Its actually very easy

Here is what I find to be common and what Ive used 0ver 20 cycles:

HCG Smaller doses, more frequently during a cycle will give best overall results with least unwanted side effects. Somewhere between 500IU and 1000IU per day would be best over about a two-week period. I use 750 mg. These doses are sufficient to avoid/rectify testicular atrophy without increasing oestrogen levels too dramatically and risking gynecomastia. This dosing schedule also avoids the risk of permanently down-regulating the LH receptors in the testes.

It is important for the HCG administration to have been completed with 6 or 7 clear days before the onset of PCT in order to avoid inhibition of the Nolvadex and/or Clomid therapy. Also, a small daily dose (10-20mg) of Nolvadex would normally be used in conjunction with HCG in order to prevent oestrogenic symptoms caused by sudden increases in aromatisation.

Steroid Time after
last administration Length of
Clomid Cycle
Anadrol50/Anapolan50: 8 - 12 hours 3 weeks
Deca durabolan: 3 weeks 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 - 8 hours 3 weeks
Equipoise: 17 - 21 days 3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone: 3 days 3 weeks
Primabolan depot: 10 - 14 days 2 weeks
Sustanon: 3 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Enanthate/Testaviron: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days 3 weeks
Testosterone Suspension: 4 - 8 hours 2-3 weeks
Winstrol 8 - 12 hours 2-3 weeks

How To Take Clomid
Clomid has a long half-life (possibly 5 days), so there is no need to split up doses throughout the day. If Sustanon has been used and Clomid is commenced 3 weeks after the last injection, Try 300mg on day 1; then use 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days.


Nolvadex for PCT
Administration would start as per the timescales outlined above and the duration would be identical to that of Clomid.

Typically, for a moderate-heavy cycle, the following dosages would be used:
Day 1 - 100mg
Following 10 days - 60mg
Following 10 days - 40mg

Some users like to use both Clomid and Nolvadex in their PCT in an attempt to cover all angles. ( Like myself )An example of the dosages involved might be:

Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg

[Xadrenaline]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

KetoSugo,
OK, my last test shot was last Fri (test 400 Mix and Deca). I did start taking the Clomid this Monday because my balls felt WAY small and I couldn't get hard to save my life (which has never happened post cycle before).
I have the HCG, which I just started taking yesterday @ 250iu a day.

Should I cease the Clomid for a few weeks and just stay with the HCG?
And should I increase the HCG since I just started it?
I saw that you noted not to run HCG with the Clomid.. Hence, I should stop with the Clomid.

The last part of your post I did read that.

If I am understanding this right, I should stop the Clomid and just use the HCG now for the next 2 weeks.
Then start he Clomid process at the end of that 2 weeks?

Sorry if I'm redundant. Trying to a things clear.


Thank you for your time,
X

[Xadrenaline]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

Also, in reading the HCG question next to mine, I see someone who (appear like me) waited until end of cycle to run HCG.

I guess that is my main question.. that I took last test shot about a week ago. And just now starting HCG. Is that fine?

[alluprbdy]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

ya your fine lots of people do it that way with great results. Personally I no longer wait that old school mentality of 2 weeks for test enth, 3 days for prop, etc. A doctor friend of mine explained it well to me and to be short and sweet why wait for your levels to be around 0 to start getting them back again? Makes no sence I start pct for prop the day after my last shot, enth I wait max 4 days

[Xadrenaline]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

Thanx Allur

[Xadrenaline]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

Allur.. Should I continue with the Clomid.. or wait for end of HCG?

[alluprbdy]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

Honestly clomid is very weak you're much better off getting nolva if u can get it fast enough. If you can get it, I'd run it along side the hcg. Like I said above this is not how I run my hcg, but I have many friends in the game as well so I've seen it ran every which way you can think of. And I can tell you I've never seen it not be effective. In a perfect world you would of either ran hcg thru out or started 5 weeks out from pct. Since ur starting now the only way I've seen friends use it this way is 250iu/day for 3 weeks with a nolva for 4 weeks along side, ran at either 40/40/20/20 and have had friends run it at 20mg/day as well. Clomid isn't bad idea to run with nolva as extra security but nolva is a must have in every pct.

[Xadrenaline]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

How about Liquidex (Arimadex) instead of Nolva.. I have thta on hand now.

[alluprbdy]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

Na a-dex is used to keep water retention down and prevent gyno, not restore test levels. If you don't have nolva I'd order today and expediate shipping.

[alluprbdy]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

If u want to run a dex aside ur pct run it at .25 Ed, but it's no substitute for nolva

[badcompany487]

Re: HCG at end of Cycle

I agree 100% with both of you guys... x these guys have great info