what ya guys think?

[hummerluv]

what do you guys think for a first cycle?

1-4wk Dbol @25/day
1-6 Prop 75/day or should i change to cyp?
1-6 tren 75/day
1-6 proviron 50/day
6-12 EQ 50 eod
6-12 primo 200/wk
6-12 winny 50/day
6-12 nolva

clen-eca all 12wks

clomid and HCG at the end of the cycle.


arimidex thru the cycle...how much?will liquidex do the same?

plz critique..what changwes would u guys do?? 1st cycle ever.
stats..21 yrs old 6'2'' 220 10% Bf
lifting for 5 yrs. red shirt yr so i wont be tested.

goals being explossiveness and power,speed. and dropping some bf and increasing lean mass..15lbs or more.
what should i expect to keep after the cycle?
after done wanna be off for 16 wks and cycle again should i follow a similar cycle with higher doses or use other roids?
thanks bros
peace out

[prolangtum]

I would drop the primo to buy more prop to run 6-12. Arimidex=Liquidex, if you use it, start out sparhingly, although i wouldnt use it during dbol(not dboll you F-er) especially on only 25mg. Once dbol is over try .25mg eod. You can always raise it. I have gained the least when i incorporate arimidex, and no, not just water weight.

[Juicemonkey101]

Well bro, first off running EQ for six weeks would be a waste IMO. Is there is reason you wanted to run fast acting esters? If thats a concern to you then i would just run somehting like this...
Test Prop 75mg 1-6
Fina 75mg ED 1-6
D-bol 30mg 1-4

SO basically i would just drop the Winny and the
IF your not concerned about that then why not buy more EQ and just run somethins simple like this
Test Cyp 400mg 1-10
EQ 400mg 1-10
D-bol 1-4 25mg
Fina 6-12 75mg ed

IMO save the winny and primo for another cycle.

[prolangtum]

shit, i didnt even catch the EQ for 6 weeks, 10 weeks at the least love hummer

[Massive1]

How are you gonna run if you bulk like that?

[hummerluv]

Originally posted by Massive1
How are you gonna run if you bulk like that?

what do you think bro??? too much bulking??? remenber i play linebacker and running back some size would be nice and welcome never to the expense of speed though, i gotta be able to move. let me know what you think.

how many lbs should i expect from that cycle,increasing the eq to 10 wks.should i may be switch something there for halo? you think it will slow me down massive?

[hummerluv]

Originally posted by prolangtum
shit, i didnt even catch the EQ for 6 weeks, 10 weeks at the least love hummer

it s hummerluv F---ker. not love hummer



and thank bros, u guys r awesome..if i was a woman...............
i d date myself

[bigdog20]

I think it way to much gear for a first cycle. You would get great results just running test at 500mg a week. Maybe add some d-ball for the first 4 weeks at 30mg a day to get thing going faster.

[CrazyC]

i like the good ole' Enan/eq/dbol cycle. It's a good first cycle IMO

[bowbow]

I would also suggest more of a basic first cycle like the others have mentioned. You'll still get the results you want.

[HeHateMe]

Let me get this right...You want to stack 7 different steroids on your first cycle

Taking your goals into consideration...I'd do something like a prop/winny or prop/fina stack. You'll be able to gain some size while not sacraficing much, if any, in the way of speed. In fact, winny is a favorite amongst athletes where speed is a necessity.

Whatever route you decide to go...Keep us up to date love hummer

[Tricky]

I think you should run the EQ 400mg EW, youve got way too many injections that arent necessary, the half life of EQ is decent when incorporating higher doses, at best do 200mg 2x per week, maybe mon and thurs depending on your workout habits. Im running this cycle right now, I havent seen much for gains but Im very optimistic.

1-4 dbol 30mg ED
1-10 EQ 400mg (200mg on mon 200mg on thurs)
1-10 Test Enthan 500mg (same as EQ)

After the dbol is done I may wait a week and incorporate some IP winny orals at 50mg ED from weeks 6-10. This has minimal injections and very balanced levels. Just a thought, I dont know what kind of items you have at your disposal.

[hummerluv]

GOSH I LOVE THIS BOARD!!!
you guys are awesome,needless to say thanks alot!!!
i m gonna take all your posts in consideration and post later
thank homies

[hummerluv]

bump4 more

[hummerluv]

ok ok....how about this?

1-4 Dbol 30 ed
1-10 eq 400 ed wkly
1-10 enth or cyp? 400 wkly
nolva on 6-10
clomid at end, should i hcg at the end,if so how??? liquidex anyone??during the cycle?
remenber for a first cycle..dont wanna sacrifice speed but gain some lean mass and strength...may be i should lower test to 200

then 12wks off and and would start 2nd cycle.....
75 prop ed 1-12
75 tren ed 1-6
50 winny eod 6-12
nolva and clomid and hcg,Ldex again?

15 wks off and then 3rd cycle...
halo 1-6 40 mg ed
primo1-6 300 mg wk
Eq 1-10 600 wk
winny inject 6-10 50 ed
clomid,nolva,hcg and proviron

what do you guys think???
peace out