Who here has ever done an eq only cycle?

[Mike P.T.]

I did one a while ago at 300mg a week for 8 weeks while bulking and gained pretty good.

What do you guys think of an eq only cycle at 600-800mg a week for 12 weeks followed immediately by a test only cycle at 500-750mg a week for another 12 weeks? Anti-estrogens will only be used during the test phase.

At what rate does eq convert into estrogen does anyone know an estimate or a good educated guess?

Yeah I know I can never make up my mind. Gotta do all the planning now. Then last minute change it all again. :p

[Mike P.T.]

I just wanna test them out on there own. Well actually just the eq and how my body will handle that dose by itself with no anti-estrogens to see how it effects the quality of my physique. By then I will be really lean already since I started my diet already and my cycle is not for another 2-3 months. I'm at the point where I don't know if I want to do test anymore even though I love it so much. I like the size I am right now and I actually don't want to be any bigger just really cut at my bodyweight.

[Warrior]

IMO - if it is the only gear you should run at least 500mgs per week and frontload a gram. I did 300mg/wk on it's own and it sucked... the only thing I got was hungry. Personally I do much better with Deca than Equipoise. And may never use Equipoise ever again based on what i found out by running it alone and running Deca alone.

If you want switch to an androgen I think it would be better to a high dose stagger like this:

Weeks 1-6: Equipoise 1200/600/600/600/600/600
Weeks 7-10: Testosterone Propinate 700/700/700/700
Week 11: HCG
Weeks 11-16: Equipoise 1200/600/600/600/600/600
Week 11- post cycle recovery: Clomid 50/50/50/...200/100/100/...

Throwin' this one at the dogs... Bouncer?

[Warrior]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
just wondering what your goals were with the EQ? EQ tends to make me harder and more vascular were as Deca makes me fuller and less vascular. just wondering why you seem to compair the 2. by the way, that cycle you suggest is top notch! i wouldn't change a thing.

Good point. Boldenone isn't too comparable with Norandrolone. But most people ask about... ya know - "should I run Eq or Deca." And I will normally advise Deca from my experience on results, period. But true, they do have different purposes... add I could have played with a higher dose to get better feedback from the Equipoise...

[Yitbos]

Have any of you done a Deca/EQ cycle before? If so why not? If a person is looking for a predominately anabolic and less androgenic effect couldn't the combination of these be beneficial? In theory the EQ could work to add a vascular effect that is typically not seen with individual deca therapy? I have heard people that have had great gains on each by themselves but why not together?

[TxLonghorn]

Originally posted by Yitbos
Have any of you done a Deca/EQ cycle before?

Several on Elite and a few other boards have run them together and loved the results. One guy in particular stands out in my mind was Lawnsaver. I think he said it was his favorite stack and most effective cycle.

[Drveejay11]

Sounds interesting........anyone else try this?

[Warrior]

My first cycle was one like this - staggered out. Paid outrageous gym prices and fucked it up (notice how Primo became unavailabe?), but none the less it was ran like this:

Deca: 800/400/400/400/400/000/000/000/000/000/000/000
Primo: 600/300/100/000/000/000/000/000/000/000/000/000
Equip: 000/000/000/000/100/300/300/300/300/300/300/300

I would not suggest this cycle (I was new, with a new hook up and pretty basic knowledge on gear) - but I did run it. And it would have been more productive if I would have ran Eq at a much higher dose and with some Clomid since I was pretty shut down after the Deca. But... nonetheless I did harden up with no sides - at all. Low blood pressure and everything.

This would have been better though:

Deca: 800/400/400/400/400/400/000/000/000/000/000/000
Prop: 000/000/000/000/000/000/000/000/700/700/700/700
Equip: 000/000/000/000/800/400/400/400/400/400/000/000

[jcp2]

Originally posted by TxLonghorn
Several on Elite and a few other boards have run them together and loved the results. One guy in particular stands out in my mind was Lawnsaver. I think he said it was his favorite stack and most effective cycle.

The funny thing is everyone that does this loves it from what i have read, yet everyone says to only run one of them. What gets me is they are not that similar, and produce at least as similar results as fina, and winstrol, yet everyone says to run fina and winstrol together, but not deca and eq. Seems to me this is a case of us all being sheep following the sheperd and repeating something we have heard with no reasoning.

[Yitbos]

If you were to run a deca and EQ cycle would you still be suceptable to erectile disfuction (deca dick). I think that this is predominately why most people are advocates of adding a test while on deca, as a means to combat this side effect. But would EQ supply enough of an androgen???
I personally really like the idea of combining two high anabolics, but moderately androgenic compounds for solid but pronounced gains. Can anyone else help?

[Warrior]

I believe many people can tollerate Deca up to 3-400mg per week w/out Deca dick. Front my frontoad the I got a lowered sex drive but combated it with a little Dbol - which did help. Forgot to write that in there (it was only 20mg used for a few weeks).

[nature boy]

my first (and only) cycle was EQ only. I did 300mg /wk for 13 wks. and had very respectable weight gains. I've kept 20 of 25lbs so far.

[jack hust]

i have done eq at 800mg a week for 12 weeks and whinny at 50mg ed the last 6 weeks got really lean and very veiney eq is a real good drug but i will not use it to cut agin i get so damn hungry i have to pad lock the fridge

[georgie24]

whats up!!!

hows the eq!!!!

[Chemical Evolution]

Re: Who here has ever done an eq only cycle?

Originally posted by Mike P.T.

At what rate does eq convert into estrogen does anyone know an estimate or a good educated guess?

heres something for you!

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