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  • #16
    Originally posted by CJWolf
    i disagree. i really don't understand your logic in that statement at all ...
    I agree, I think he'll make great gains of the winstrol, However I do think taking it ED instead of EOD is a good point, but winstrol and dbol are very different, and just because hes running EQ doesnt defeat the purpose of using winny. They effect different test receptors, and have generally different effects altogether, maybe he doesnt want to deal with water gain for both dbol and deca, considering deca alone may be bad enough. If your going to run the dbol as well maybe you should consider adding Ldex or nolva while cycling ED or EOD. Just a thought. Tricky.

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    • #17
      i see what your saying to a point but would you do that all in a 10 week cycle?

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      • #18
        yup in 12 you can IMO
        Only plants grow naturally

        Var 60mg ED 1-16
        Test Enth 750mg EW 1-14
        EQ 600mg EW 1-14
        Nolva 20mg ED
        Femara 1.25mg ED
        Clen - ?????

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        • #19
          we're talking 10 weeks here..

          I'm not really *****in about what all he is taking i jsut think he should drawl it out for a longer period of time

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          • #20
            well, the smartest thing is to run the winny weeks 7-12 so the winny/sust/eq will pretty much exit at the same time and he can start clomid after the last shot of winny ...

            and lots of people do dbol, winny, test, eq all in the same cycle, it may be overkill, but plenty do it ...

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            • #21
              we changed his cycle for him lol
              Test Enth 500mg wk 1-10
              EQ 400mg wk 1-10
              Winstrol 50mg ED wk 6-12
              Only plants grow naturally

              Var 60mg ED 1-16
              Test Enth 750mg EW 1-14
              EQ 600mg EW 1-14
              Nolva 20mg ED
              Femara 1.25mg ED
              Clen - ?????

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              • #22
                I agree we making everyones cycles around here lol

                I mentioned he should add some dbol to front load.
                but its all about his funds and resources in finding a source

                1-4wk 35 to 50mg dbol
                1-10wk sustanon 500mg ew
                1-10wk eq 400mgew
                7-12wk winie 50mg ed

                oh his pour liver!!

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                • #23
                  i don't think dbol at the beginning really has that much bearing on gains of a cycle ... you might gain 2-3 extra lbs from the dbol, but it doesn't seem worth it to me. ..

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                  • #24
                    I wouldnt throw dbol in, too much going on to know what is working.
                    I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
                    I pray at least 6 times a day to build my soul

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                    • #25
                      oh well i gave yah my opinion..

                      btw im big on long progressive cycles..

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jarrett80
                        oh well i gave yah my opinion..

                        btw im big on long progressive cycles..
                        I just noticed your location, what part of TX u from? I went to HS in Juarez MX, then relocated to Arlington, for my business venture.
                        I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
                        I pray at least 6 times a day to build my soul

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                        • #27
                          IMO skip the dbol if the winnie's oral i dont like to see the 2 17 aa's and he wants to look cut for summer.

                          btw dont forget the ldex! dont get bloated
                          Only plants grow naturally

                          Var 60mg ED 1-16
                          Test Enth 750mg EW 1-14
                          EQ 600mg EW 1-14
                          Nolva 20mg ED
                          Femara 1.25mg ED
                          Clen - ?????

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                          • #28
                            im around the houston area

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                            • #29
                              CJ........im the same way........eq and winny together gets me real nice....lean and hard as a rock.....i dont think you have to go nuts....

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                              • #30
                                the only thing i would change is the sust run it 750 m w f imo

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