Followup to fake QV from QV themselves

[Bustanut]

After Rado's comments, I was 99.999% certain I had a fake QV product. But so I could prove it to the source, I wrote QV and asked them inspect a couple photos. Here is their answer:

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Sir:

In response to your e mail, we would like to inform you as follows:

As we could observe on both pictures you kindly sent to us, on the right one
the hologram looks fake, since the QV emblem looks different than ours. We
also could see that above the emblem says "Quality Vet" instead "vet vet
vet". The only difference we presently have in our holograms is that one
leaves dots when removed and the other one have two opposing "V" slits (top
and bottom).

Our original label has rounded corners as seen on the left bottle, and the
right one looks copied and does not have the rounded corners.

For all the above, we assume you purchased a fake product and we regret to
realize that there are dishonest people who manufacture fake products.

Hoping you find all this information useful, we remain,
Sincerely,
Quality Vet.

[HeHateMe]

which product of theirs are you referring to?

[RC51racer]

Hey BUSTA post the pics that you gave to QV on here so everyone can see what they're talking about.

[rado]

Re: Followup to fake QV from QV themselves

Originally posted by Bustanut
After Rado's comments, I was 99.999% certain I had a fake QV product. But so I could prove it to the source, I wrote QV and asked them inspect a couple photos. Here is their answer:

==================================

Sir:

In response to your e mail, we would like to inform you as follows:

As we could observe on both pictures you kindly sent to us, on the right one
the hologram looks fake, since the QV emblem looks different than ours. We
also could see that above the emblem says "Quality Vet" instead "vet vet
vet". The only difference we presently have in our holograms is that one
leaves dots when removed and the other one have two opposing "V" slits (top
and bottom).

Our original label has rounded corners as seen on the left bottle, and the
right one looks copied and does not have the rounded corners.

For all the above, we assume you purchased a fake product and we regret to
realize that there are dishonest people who manufacture fake products.

Hoping you find all this information useful, we remain,
Sincerely,
Quality Vet.

I told you so.

[jarrett80]

hmm thats new to me where di you purchase these QV products from?? and could you post a picture of the bottle and boxes

[RC51racer]

Re: Re: Followup to fake QV from QV themselves

Originally posted by rado
I told you so.

Rado not all of them leave dots.

[rado]

http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6419&perpage=35&pagenumber=2

here is the thread. scroll down a bit.


left one is real, right one fake.

[jarrett80]

where did you get theres from a domestic source or straight from mex?

[RC51racer]

So did they leave dots rado???

[Bustanut]

Thanks for putting up the link Rado.

They came from a domestic. Waaay down to line from the original. I know of at least 3 middlemen. But what can ya do?

I am working with the source(s) to see what they will do about it. Maybe I will offer my services of identifying fakes in return for better prices.

[Bustanut]

These left no dots. They ripped the label right off with them. They are obvious fakes now that I have been initiated.

[RC51racer]

So do you guys think if it doesn't have dots its fake???

[Bustanut]

RC,

The lack of dots does not automatically mean fake. A crappy looking sticker which does not look like the holograms you commonly see on credit cards means fake. Not all real holos leave dots. The email I got from QV themselves stated this.

My real bottle of enantat, the holo on the box left dots, the holo on the bottle did not. But both holos look identical otherwise.

The sticker on the fake I got, which attempts to recreate the real hologram. doesn't look like a hologram at all. I looks like a silver sticker with some light gray printing on it.

Oh yeah, and the fake sticker peeled the paper right off the box and bottle.

[rado]

Originally posted by Bustanut
RC,

The lack of dots does not automatically mean fake. A crappy looking sticker which does not look like the holograms you commonly see on credit cards means fake. Not all real holos leave dots. The email I got from QV themselves stated this.

My real bottle of enantat, the holo on the box left dots, the holo on the bottle did not. But both holos look identical otherwise.

The sticker on the fake I got, which attempts to recreate the real hologram. doesn't look like a hologram at all. I looks like a silver sticker with some light gray printing on it.

Oh yeah, and the fake sticker peeled the paper right off the box and bottle.

well every one that I've come across that does not leave dot's have been fake's, as in bad wrapping, bad hologram, overfilled, over lapping of label, etc...Can't we all just get along... QV gear no matter what(unless it's fake), is good gear.......Bustanut's pics are real good one's as well.

[RC51racer]

Rado what do you think about theses? real fake?