Mike P.T & Vets!- First Cycle Advice???

[Millineum Man]

Guys, I've done a good amount of research and would like to get some constructive criticisim before trying my First Cycle. I've been working out off and on for 8 years. The last 2-3 years I have been eating and training, consistently. I'm 25 years old, 6'2" 235lbs and 9%bf. Since this is my First Cycle, I want to keep things simple as possible. Here's what I came up with. Test Enanthate@600mgs for 10 weeks with Arimidex@.5mgs EOD throughout. Post Cycle Recovery Program- HCG at 1000ius 3 times a week(Monday, Wednesday, and Friday)weeks 10-11 along with Nolvadex at 20mgs ED weeks 10-15. No Clomid for me. My goal with this cycle is to retain 15lbs of Lean Muscle. I was thinking about adding Dbol@30mgs a day for the first 4 weeks(10mgs caps, 3 times a day), but it's still up in the air. So, what do you think? Sounds good???

[CJWolf]

that sounds good, but the post cycle i think would be better with the clomid. and the HCG isn't really necessary for that cycle.

i would throw in dbol at the beginning, but you really won't notice a huge difference in total gains with or without it.

[HeHateMe]

I'd recommend 400-500 mg/wk for most ppl's first cycle...but you are 235 lbs, so in your case 600mg/wk would be fine...I'd also add the clomid at the end...Like CJ stated, HCG really isn't necessary with your cycle

[Billy_Bathgate]

Im impressed you included arimidex. Well done.

I would also use Clomid. HCG is def not needed. Id save it for the longer and heavier cycles. If you like, stack the nolva with the clomid..as I usually do.

[prolangtum]

500mg of Test
start off at .25mg eod, then up it as needed. If your using nolva only post cycle, I would up the dose a bit, to say 60-80mg for the first few days, then taper down. Looks like you did a good job as far as research goes.

[CJWolf]

600 mg is perfect for cyp, since that'll be 3 bottles of 200 mg/ml cyp for 10 weeks.

[prolangtum]

QV eth will work out well since its 250mg/ml too, and cheaper than Cypionate

[jack hust]

looks real good bro good luck have fun

[ironguns]

i would definately use the clomid...everything else looks great...

[Millineum Man]

Thanks for replying, guys! Ok fellas, I'm going to drop the HCG and use a Nolvadex/Clomid combo. Nolvadex at 60mgs a day for weeks 12-13, then drop down to 20mgs a day for weeks 14-17. I'm also going to run a low dose of Clomid at 50mgs a day with the Nolvadex then guage how I'm feeling and looking(ie.Depression and Acne). I'm going to be using some underground Test Enanthate. It's 400mgs/ml and accurately dosed, so I'm going use 3/4mls twice a week. Do you think I should leave the Dbol out?

[HeHateMe]

Personally, I wouldn't include the D bol this time around. However, that's contrary to what a lot of ppl will tell you. You can attain your goals with just the test. But then again, I'm just a dumb bodybuilder so what do I know.

[Millineum Man]

Thanks HHM!

[ryan16]

looks really good id go with the dbol and the clomid..... good luck

[Millineum Man]

Up for Mike P.T.!

[Juicemonkey101]

Impressed with your homework bro! I persoanlly love the cycle!! I think everyones first cycle should be test only at 500-600mg just like your doing! Simple, cheap and very effective. Also gives you a chance to save differnt Anabolics for other cycles.