Should I be alarmed yet?

[PinCushion]

First "real" cycle, looks like this:

Week 1 - 4: 30mg/day DBol
Week 1 - 10: 500mg/week Sust
Nolva on hand, Clomid to follow three weeks after last shot, 300, 100, 50.

I've "dabbled" with sust before at really low dosages, and no post cycle, that's why I say this is my first "real" cycle.

Anyway, I just finished week 5. Gains so far are only from the DBol which was about 7 lbs. My training is good, diet is about 4500 - 5000 calories/day. No gains from the Sust yet. I know it usually kicks in around week 4 - 6, but I'm starting to get a little paranoid. What little progress I made before with Sust, I started to notice around week 4, 5 latest. I dunno I'm sure it's all mental, and I will start seeing some nice gains from the Sust this week or so.....guess I just needed all of your responses to this thread to keep my spirits up

[njjuicer]

wow only 7lbs from the dbols and nothing from the sust huh?wierd if nothing happens in the enxt week or so then id be pretty pissed what brans of gear u got?

[PinCushion]

The Sust is the new version of Cyctahoh from Infar. I was reassured from a mod that they were good shit. Was also told by this mod that fakes would be pretty hard to come by because they are so new.

Actually, I have something to clear up about the DBol. It was Humabol which I was told was a fake after I got them. My source told me they were good though when I asked him about them, even said he'd refund them for me if I was unhappy with gains. I only had a bottle of 100, so I really only ran it for like 2.5 weeks. I was surprised by the gains because I was expecting them to do nothing because of the fact I heard they were fake. But I just didn't think it was worth it to buy another bottle to only run them for another week and a half. Sorry, I should have stated that above. Holding the gains from the Dbol pretty good though, just can't wait for the Sust gains to start kicking in.

[BullFX]

hey pincushion how much do u weigh right now?? my test didnt kick in till week 6 or so... hang in there bro 7 lbs its pretty good !

[PinCushion]

The most I've ever weighed was 180, but then I cut down to 160 for a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu tournament and got back up to 165 which is where I was at when I started this cycle. I'm 5'7" and 11% bodyfat. I'm a very hard gainer. At 172lbs. now from the DBol, I'm hoping to hit 190 from the Sust.

Thanks for the words of encouragement Bull, it's what I needed. I'm sure my weight will start to rise around this week (week 6).

[Mike P.T.]

Good luck bro. Remember it could be due to training as well. Are you training enough? Too much? Or are you using proper form and training with the basics? That means legs as well! If you are then you are a hardgainer. Don't worry about it look at each pound as something good. Stay positive and grow. At those doseages you should have already felt the sus. It has short and medium acting esters in it which would make you feel it already. For example, I'm on 250mg every 4-5 days and I'm making great progress and I consider this to be a serious cycle. Genetics again of course play a big role.

[Tricky]

Nice post mike. Like the support. Dont see enough of it.

[PinCushion]

Nah man, training is good. It's the best it's ever been. I work every bodypart every 5 days. I don't feel exhausted, and I don't feel as if I'm over training. Workouts feel GREAT! Like I've said, I'm sure I'll start seeing some nice gains once I go into this week (week 6) Watch, after the cycle I'll post my results, I'll be at 190

[PinCushion]

Originally posted by Mike P.T.
...It has short and medium acting esters in it which would make you feel it already...

Also, the fast acting esters are prop and phenylprop. In every 250mg of Sust250 you only have 30mg prop and 60mg phenylprop, I think these amounts are too low for anybody to see results that fast. Next time I will be using enanthate. For every 250mg you're getting 180mg of free test. Sounds like a better deal to me. I used to be so "pro Sustanon" but I'm starting to lean more towards Enanthate.

[prolangtum]

Lets look at the diet, are you really eating 4-5k cals? Nto flaming trying to help yah. I try to put "bunk gear" as the last resort.

[PinCushion]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Lets look at the diet, are you really eating 4-5k cals? Nto flaming trying to help yah. I try to put "bunk gear" as the last resort.

I know you're not flaming man...it's all good. I'm EASY 4500 calories. Most likely closer to 5000. I've always been a big eater, but high motabolism. I'm very confident that I'll start seeing results this week. Wish me luck lol

I'll keep you all posted...thanx for the responses.

[superchicken]

u sure the gains were from the dbol? 7lbs could be from the sust and no dbol too.....plenty of people gain 10lbs from sust only, in the first 4-5 wks.

[PinCushion]

Hmmm, interesting superchicken. Thank you for your input, it's always appreciated. Well I dunno, all the other times I've used Sust, I started to make most of my progress around week 5 or so. Maybe this time it's taking a little longer who knows. We'll see where I am at when I'm done. Bull said he didn't feel his test kick in 'til week 7, mind you that was enanthate. I'll wait to make a final judgement when I'm done, I'm just pretty nervous now, I'm sure you can't blame me :p